Boxing is a Dangerous Contact Sport. It is not Ballroom Dancing

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  • Larry the boss
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    #31
    Originally posted by Rockin'
    ok, fine no issue on tests. Still I ask, who the **** are you to call any world class fighter a wussy? You know nothing of warring in the ring or how much it takes to step in there nor do you have any first hand experience of the damage incurred in prize fights. Just another arm chair critic...............Rockin'
    these posters amaze me callin boxers cowards.boxing is a job just like anything else and your money,health and your family comes first.......these posters say a boxer is suppose to put them first but when its all said and done not 1 of these mafuckas would donate a damn dime if further on they find out one of these wars damaged a fighters health and they could earn no more money and could not support their family..............so damn right the fighter and his family comes first cause the same people they risk their life's to entertain will turn on them in a hot second

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    • Cardinal Buck
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      #32
      Originally posted by tatangb45
      Ali, Robinson, Duran, Hearns, Hagler, etc. all knew and accepted that boxing is dangerous profession. Yet they recognized that to achieve gain and fame, they must take the risk and accept the pain. They also realized that to minimize the pain they must rely on their skills, not on their ability to avoid the threats.
      You're really not making a good case by including a guy with traumatic Parkinson's. Duran also has documented brain damage and Hearns was a slurrer last time I checked.

      Would you rather get money and be healthy if you were a boxer or rather take punches and end up like some of those guys you named?

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      • polarcub
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        #33
        @Cardinal, there is a difference between being cautious when YOU ARE INSIDE the ring and when you are too chicken **** to even make a match.

        Lennox was cautious but still fought grant tua etc monster punchers who were obviously overhyped but the danger was there (at least on paper). Oscar de la hoya fought every single ****ing fighter out there and he is fine..... Guys like Floyd is pretty chicken **** in that he is the clear #1 and still scared to make big matches.

        Also as a side note, I found out both KBROS were actaully pretty damn big draws even in the early 2000's, which means they ducked Lennox and Mike Tyson during that time period. Since every time Lennox fought on HBO after the fight he kept saying 'if wladimir wants a fight he knows where I am' but Wlad never called him out once.

        NOW does this make the k bros cowards? OF course not. Because they knew they would have gotten murdered at the time, Floyd KNOWS he can be competitive against martinez at 155-160 and be a big favorite against Pac at 147, but still don't fight either. That makes him chicken ****.

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        • CHOWWOKKA
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          #34
          I guess Floyd not wanting Parkinson's by boxing 20 years makes him a coward?

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          • eklok
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            #35
            Originally posted by CHOWWOKKA
            I guess Floyd not wanting Parkinson's by boxing 20 years makes him a coward?
            not fighting a midget he considers easy work makes him a coward

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            • Spoon23
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              #36
              Originally posted by tatangb45
              Ali, Robinson, Duran, Hearns, Hagler, etc. all knew and accepted that boxing is dangerous profession. Yet they recognized that to achieve gain and fame, they must take the risk and accept the pain. They also realized that to minimize the pain they must rely on their skills, not on their ability to avoid the threats.

              Boxing is a physical and dangerous sport. That is it's nature. That is also what makes it enticing to watch. If boxers can cherry pick their opponents and duck the threats because they fear the possible dire consequences, then the sport of boxing will simply become a joke, a farce. There would be no point in watching and supporting the sport anymore. We all might as well switch to watching ballroom dancing.

              Any sport, whether its football, basketball, tennis, swimming, track & field, etc., the goal is to determine who is the best. And to be the best, athletes must face the best. Anyone who refuses to abide and accept this universal principle of all sports and who will instead deliberately duck a threat for fear of losing, or is afraid of the adverse consequences, is nothing but a COWARD and should not be allowed in the sport in the first place. Likewise, any fan who agrees with the COWARD is contributing to degradation of the sport and is definitely not a true fan of that sport.
              You forgot to mention the most important part is 'daring to be called the greatest'

              Floyd thinks. It's about self preservation. He will only fight boxers he can surely win and obvious threats like Pac (the best fighter to fight) he should stay away from After all as Floyd said this is a deadly sport. self preservation is his priority doesn't have the care in the world for the glory of it the sport. How can a fan like that in a fighter??

              Self preservation, family comes first.. Being great fuvk it.. But He keeps on telling himself he is the greatest lol.. Nowhere near Ali. He ain't for legacy. No super bowl glory, no nba championship game winning shot. Just coasting to make easy winnable fights to rip of boxing fans who are gullible. Legit threats ain't in Floyd's agenda. Sad but true.. After all, It came out of the horse's mouth.

              IF YOU WANT TO HAVE THAT MANTLE OF GREATNESS AT LEAST YOU HAVE TO ACT LIKE IT. WALK THE WALK, NOT ALL BARK AND NO BITE. THAT IS THE OTHER BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ALI AND FLOYD. ALI PUT HIS LIFE ON THE LINE AND PROVES HE FIGHTS THE BEST OUT THERE.

              BOXING IS A DEADLY IF YOU DON'T WANT TO GET HURT GET OUT OF THE KITCHEN. simple really.

              Don't tell everyone you are the greatest then cherry picks fights, dodges legit opponents, picks on easy low risk fights. That is not how it works. Either you for self preservation and calculated risk or you are in it for the glory and greatness and risk everything in the ring. Daring to be great is a mark of no fear. That is what great is all about.

              Don't call yourself great and calculate risks.. The great ones don't fear. Gladiators fight to the death. That's what a real mantle of warrior should have. That is what Ali, Robinson and the greats have. That I think is what Tatang is trying to tell you guys.

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              • tatangb45
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                #37
                Originally posted by Cardinal Buck
                You're really not making a good case by including a guy with traumatic Parkinson's. Duran also has documented brain damage and Hearns was a slurrer last time I checked.

                Would you rather get money and be healthy if you were a boxer or rather take punches and end up like some of those guys you named?
                If you are so concerned about a boxers health that you would support one who prefers to fight safe opponents, would you then prefer to have boxers wear protective clothing and pillow gloves so that boxing becomes safer? That would certainly prevent anyone from getting seriously hurt. Would that be better than ducking serious threats to avoid damage? Would that still be boxing?

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                • Rockin'
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by tatangb45
                  If you are so concerned about a boxers health that you would support one who prefers to fight safe opponents, would you then prefer to have boxers wear protective clothing and pillow gloves so that boxing becomes safer? That would certainly prevent anyone from getting seriously hurt. Would that be better than ducking serious threats to avoid damage? Would that still be boxing?
                  Manny needs Floyd, not the other way around. While it would be an exclamation point for the legacy of Mayweather, he doesn't have to. But you know what, he will. Floyd is a great fighter but he is a great business man aswell, taking care of it how he sees fit. Floyds been fighting tough guys all of his life, you think that he didn't encounter anything similar to Pacquiao in the amatuers? He'll fight him, when it's right for him. That's good business..........Rockin'

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                  • Cardinal Buck
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by tatangb45
                    If you are so concerned about a boxers health that you would support one who prefers to fight safe opponents, would you then prefer to have boxers wear protective clothing and pillow gloves so that boxing becomes safer? That would certainly prevent anyone from getting seriously hurt. Would that be better than ducking serious threats to avoid damage? Would that still be boxing?
                    scratching my head at the "safe opponents" thing. His last fight was against a guy who tried to break his nose with a headbutt and was coming off one of the most barbaric fights of 2011.

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                    • Canelo Phresh
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                      #40
                      Wow their's been alot of ******* circle jerk threads lately.

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