David Haye doesn't deserve a title fight with Vitali

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  • polarcub
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    #31
    David Hayes is going to ko vitali rofl and then retire again as the new baddest man on the planet.

    VITALI IS GETTING SLOW AND OLD . THE ONLY REASON HE SURVIVED WAS CUZ ITS DEREK ****ING CHISORA. Derek chisora is a F-- version of Mike Tyson. If that was even a prime razer ruddock in there that night against 40 year old vitali, vitali would have gone coma status.

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    • joe strong
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      #32
      Originally posted by Freedom.
      I'll be disappointed in Vitali if he fights David Haye next.

      Haye is coming off a loss where he was more focused more on not being KOed than winning the fight. And he made a silly excuse about a sore little toe after the fight.

      I thought Chisora deserved his shot at Vitali, even though I don't like him as a person. He was coming off what should have been a win over top 10 HW Robert Helenius.

      To qualify, Haye needs a decent top 10 win on his resume. He should take on someone like Arreola, or the winner of Dimitrenko-Pulev, and if he wins he'll have earned the shot at Vitali.

      Interestingly, the EBU has a rule you need to be coming off a win to fight for the European title. It should be the same for a WBC title shot.
      the EBU belt gets a WBC top 10 ranking & harrison won the EBU belt & then vacated it to fight haye. so when haye fought harrison he was actually fighting the european champion & a top 10 WBC contender. haye doesn't deserve the payday he got vs wlad but he is still one of the logical choices because vitali could go to england & make a statement in one of his final fights. oliver mccall & tim witherspoon both went to england to defend their world titles vs frank bruno. those were both huge events & netted both fighters handsome purses. vitali fighting haye there could be an electric event. i actually think it's still one of the best HW fights that could be made right now. vitali\chisora had 15000 fans so what do you think a haye fight would bring in wembley? i really think vitali would be leaving too much money on the table to resist this fight.

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        #33
        Originally posted by polarcub
        David Hayes is going to ko vitali rofl and then retire again as the new baddest man on the planet.

        VITALI IS GETTING SLOW AND OLD . THE ONLY REASON HE SURVIVED WAS CUZ ITS DEREK ****ING CHISORA. Derek chisora is a F-- version of Mike Tyson. If that was even a prime razer ruddock in there that night against 40 year old vitali, vitali would have gone coma status.
        Vitali's injury will be healed by September. I'm confident he would beat Haye, but because Haye would be in survival mode for it wouldn't be an enjoyable fight to watch.

        I would prefer to see Vitali-Pulev, if Pulev beats Dimitrenko which he probably will. Although Pulev isn't a big puncher, he's a big man with some decent skills and a solid chin. Dominick Guinn said Pulev is the physically strongest man he's ever been in with.

        Pulev wouldn't run from Vitali, he'd come after him like Chisora and Arreola did, so he'd make for a better, more entertaining fight than Haye.
        Last edited by The Hammer; 03-04-2012, 04:33 PM.

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          #34
          Originally posted by Harry Balls
          arreola vitali 2 is ******ed. it's like seeing cotto pac 2.

          Don't think Haye has deserved ****, but who cares. It's still more entertaining to me than Vitali vs basically anyone. Fury, Povetkin and the likes lack the balls to fight him anyway.
          i wouldn't say arreola\vitali 2 is ******ed. i think both solis & arreola would do better in rematches. i'm not saying they'd win but do better. arreola was not in the best of shape & he got his ass kicked. he's in better shape now & has the experience of fighting him before. vitali is also a couple years older & got hurt in his last fight. solis blew out his knee & we did not see enough to really determine how that fight would have went. arreola has beaten 7 journeymen HW's to get on a roll & is ready for another title run. he is the WBC #1 contender so he doesn't have to fight anyone else.

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            #35
            Originally posted by joe strong
            i wouldn't say arreola\vitali 2 is ******ed.
            Arreola wants to fight Wlad, and that fight will likely happen later this year.

            Originally posted by joe strong
            i think both solis & arreola would do better in rematches. solis blew out his knee & we did not see enough to really determine how that fight would have went.
            Odlanier Solis will be soon removed from the BoxRec rankings and added to the retired fighter list because of over a year's inactivity. He's been healthy and ready since October 2011, but his slimey promoter Oner won't get him a fight.

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              #36
              Originally posted by Freedom.
              Vitali's injury will be healed by September. I'm confident he would beat Haye, but because Haye would be in survival mode for it wouldn't be an enjoyable fight to watch.

              I would prefer to see Vitali-Pulev, if Pulev beats Dimitrenko which he probably will. Although Pulev isn't a big puncher, he's a big man with some decent skills and a solid chin. Dominick Guinn said Pulev is the physically strongest man he's ever been in with.

              Pulev wouldn't run from Vitali, he'd come after him like Chisora and Arreola did, so he'd make for a better, more entertaining fight than Haye.
              after the chisora fight i really think haye was licking his chops. vitali hurt his shoulder but was much slower then in recent fights. chisora had both helenius & vitali retreating all night. both came out the fights hurt. chisora was the first guy i've seen who attacked vitali's body & was not physically overwhelmed in the clinches. he wore vitali down like no other. after the fight vitali said himself that chisora was strong but slow. he then said if chisora was faster he would have been in trouble. i was quite refreshed by vitali's honesty. not many champions would say that. haye has the speed but does not have the strength to push vitali around nor does he possess the chin to take punches to get inside & work the body. this is a much easier matchup for vitali.

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                #37
                Fight Haye or fight your brother. There are no other interesting fights.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Freedom.
                  Arreola wants to fight Wlad, and that fight will likely happen later this year.



                  Odlanier Solis will be soon removed from the BoxRec rankings and added to the retired fighter list because of over a year's inactivity. He's been healthy and ready since October 2011, but his slimey promoter Oner won't get him a fight.
                  that's too bad. i did read he was to be on 2 different undercards but solis denied it himself. the fights were even announced but never happened. i still think solis could be a legit contender but he needs new promoter.wlad has a mandatory defence vs tony thompson which needs to happen by end of june. it will have to be in fall. unless he vacates IBF title which i can't see him doing.
                  Last edited by joe strong; 03-04-2012, 04:55 PM.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by joe strong
                    that's too bad. i did read he was to be on 2 different undercards but solis denied it himself. the fights were even announced but never happened. i still think solis could be a legit contender but he needs new promoter.wlad has a mandatory defence vs tony thompson which needs to happen by end of june. it will have to be in fall. unless he vacates IBF title which i can't see him doing.
                    As far as I know, Wlad's plan is to fight Thompson in early July in Germany, and then fight Arreola in the US in the fall.

                    Arreola said he prefers to fight Wladimir, not Vitali again.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Freedom.
                      As far as I know, Wlad's plan is to fight Thompson in early July in Germany, and then fight Arreola in the US in the fall.

                      Arreola said he prefers to fight Wladimir, not Vitali again.
                      i like both those fights. it's better then mormeck\wlad 2 or haye\harrison 2...in almost 7 rounds combined i think harrison & mormeck landed 4 punches between them in their title shots.

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