Comments Thread For: McGirt: Mayweather, Marquez - The True Greats of Our Era

[Tony B.]

FLoyd and JMM are greats of this era no doubt. But countless people think Pac is the greatest of the era.

Most people acknowledge if Pac isnt the greatest of this era, he certainly is one of them to not offend some Floyd fans or JMM fans and being diplomatic.

Moral of the story, stop boasting about thinking FLoyd or JMM is the best fighter of the era. Because there are more people who could and will boast that Pac is the greatest of the era with interest.

You need to say "countless Pinoys", not countless "people" believe Pacquiao is the best. Thats a demonstrably false statement. Be honest with youself.

[Brother Jay]

Aye Brother Jay, you forgot to show them this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEnPEz_rSoU

Edit: I don't know how to embed the video but it's called Cherry Picking with Freddie Roach... I don't know how people continue to argue for the legitimacy of Pac's WW career when Freddie Roach explained the match making process in no uncertain terms...

^^^ Is an EXCELLENT video.

No ******* will come near it.

Not with anything logical or accurate.

Here's the video:

[Brother Jay]

You are just making stuff up. Over and over and over. Which is normal for you, and why I don't bother. Not sure why I did this time.

You don't have to reply, Bojangles1987.

The fact that my post has relegated you to explaining why you refuse to reply is PRICELESS.

Your reply is the verbal equivalent of kneeling before me.

You have amused the forum and afforded me my afternoon laugh.

You may carry on.

[Brother Jay]

Wow lots of ubber s h i t! How anyone can say pac is not one of the greatest of our generation is a mistery to me. You are either a ******, a hater, or a child. Plain and simple May would probably win a match between the two but Pac will be known as a greater fighter. How can you claim Marquez is greater(Favorite fighter after Cotto) than the man he failed to beat?(we can argue all day about the outcome but Pac won) May is the most gifted but Pac is greater! Get over it it just goes to show who's a real fan of the sport and who's a S PE RM sucking F A G! Red K me Biatches!!!

Hey assshole .. you wrote all that without one ounce of evidence or fact to back up your tirade.

WTF is wrong with you? Do you have Tourette's Syndrome? Are insults the new facts in the land of the peasants?

And the worst part of it all is that you show your skirt by mentioning red k. Only losers in real life need to red k someone because they disagree with them.

Offline I'm sure you're completely different. Otherwise you've gotten punched in the face A LOT.

[Tony B.]

Hey assshole .. you wrote all that without one ounce of evidence or fact to back up your tirade.

WTF is wrong with you? Do you have Tourette's Syndrome? Are insults the new facts in the land of the peasants?

And the worst part of it all is that you show your skirt by mentioning red k. Only losers in real life need to red k someone because they disagree with them.

Offline I'm sure you're completely different. Otherwise you've gotten punched in the face A LOT.

That about sums it up.....

[straightleft]

Marquez claims to his greatness was his draw and 2 losses against Pacquaio. Lmao! Let us say he won the last fight against Pacquaio, that is? LOL! In that case, *****s should put Torrecampo and Singsurat alongside with Marquez in hall of greatness.

FLOYD claims to his greatness was his last 5 fights against shot Oscar, light welterweight Hatton, grandpa Mosley in which all were sent by Pacquaio into forced retirement (that should be the way) and beat the hell out of them, while Marquez was weight cheated by Floyd and Ortiz was sucker punched to victory. LMAO! THE GREATEST OF THIS ERA!

[Syf]

I think this is all silly. Pac is a great, Mayweather is a great.. Each of them would have perhaps more losses in another era but they would still both be successful fighters and champions in ANY era. The end.

[Syf]

Brother jay, hugh grant, b toney, bojangles and straightleft all arguing about nothing lol... It remind me of an average night with my gf

[hugh grant]

You need to say "countless Pinoys", not countless "people" believe Pacquiao is the best. Thats a demonstrably false statement. Be honest with youself.

Completely ****** to compare Haglers losses to Pacquiaos. Marvelous Marvin lost a couple of close decisions on his way up to excellent fighters (Monroe and Watts) he avenged both of them TWICE by KO! He was never flattened to the canvas in defense of his WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP where he lay squirming and crying. I agree that Pacquiao is a great fighter and belongs among the top 5 of his era. But he is not the god that his fans make him out to be. You say a majority of people think he is the best but I don't think I could find 10 non-Filipinos who believe that. I'm Puerto Rican. If you ask most Puerto Ricans who the greatest fighter who ever lived was, most will say either Trinidad or Gomez. But thats just emotions and ethnic pride. They were great, but flawed. Pacquiao is great, but flawed. We are talking here about the absolute elites. I personally think Floyd Mayweather is a ****-talking little punk.....but his magnificent skills and resume cannot be denied. When Pacquiao was being KO'ed, Floyd was destroying top-notch fighters like Hernandez and Corrales. That was many years ago and he didn't just beat them, he obliterated them. And he is still the only man to desicively beat Marquez. EVERY other Marquez loss was either controversial or out-right robbery! The only fight that Floyd ever struggled in was against Castillo....and he set the record straight in the immediate rematch. Pacquiao gets alot of credit because he is a super nice guy who is a class-act......while Floyd is a ****y loud-mouth. I (and many others) appreciate Pacquiao for being a respectful gentleman in and out of the ring. But that doesnt change the fact that Floyd has a superior resume. And as many times as Pacfans want to scream, "Marquez was never able to beat Manny!".....the fact is that Manny was never able to beat him either........

People who criticise pac, eventually put their foot in it, revealing they are haters just like you just did with your racist only pinoys think Pac is the greatest! You should be banned with comments like that. The people who gave Pac FOTD are not pinoys and if you qualify as FOTD you sure can qualify for best fighter of the era so get over it.

Floyds claim to being the best of this era is based on his unbeaten record it seems, which isnt if you put the castillo fight in the equation. His resume isnt as good as Pacs, so its obvious he hasnt beat enough quality opponents meaning he isnt the best fighter of this era. He can only claim to be a on paper unbeaten fighter of this era and we know unbeaten records dont count for much and are overated, JC and ottke as examples. Yes Hagler gave a few rematches and won, as did Pac on may occasions against great fighters and won, something Floyd cant claim. Wouldnt give DLH, Hatton in england rematches, does he know something we dont is he scared? He made hard work of castillo in the rematch after being a gift decison he should have had an extra yard in his step. Pacs the first and only one to stop Morales to this day, so Morales beating Pac could be called an off day for Pac.

Again pacs loss to singsurrat is irrelevant as he wasnt a name then, people didnt expect so much of him. Not half as bad as durans loss to laing as duran was established and people put high expectations on duran at that point in time. Duran was maybe not at his peak, but he would have losst to laing no matter how many times they fought from what i saw of that performance. Whereas Pac was probably only 40% of what he is today.

When pac lost must be taken into consideration, and Pac haters wont do that. All they can do is say like robots pac lost to sing, pac got ko;ed crying by singsurrat. Saying Pac cant be fighter of the this era is as ****** as saying Floyd is the best of this era as hes beaten everyone put in front of him......rematched his only loss to castillo and beat him. Lennox lewis beat everyone put in front of him also didnt he.?

Pac is the greatest fighter of this era. If you want me to be diplomatic he is one of them to not offend anyone.

[Chups]

I agree with McGirt. Floyd is the greatest fantasy fighter of all time.....no surprise that he would make good on other eras.

Pacquiao is one of the worst fantasy fighters .....too raw when he was in the smaller weights and too small when he was in the higher weights. Very simple.