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  • #11
    Originally posted by niceyboo3 View Post
    The funny part is that, it's not even close to 10 years... Lol Roger at his finest...
    Yeah, lol, it was 5 years ago. Roger speaks from memory, not from the internet or Boxrec. He says ****** things some times, but he's usually right on point with his predictions, even when everyone disagrees with him, the joke ends up being on every one else who was laughing at him.

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    • #12
      I probably agree that the version of Oscar that Floyd fought is better than the current version of Cotto and Cotto won't put up as good of a fight as Oscar.

      2008 Cotto puts up a very similar effort to 2007 Oscar. I always thought those fights would look very similar. Competitive but clear losses.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by -Kev- View Post
        De La Hoya has always been a better fighter than Cotto. If any one disputes that, they're probably just Puerto Ricans, or a big Cotto fan, or big DLH hater. And I think even the biggest DLH hater, Jro, would agree. '07 DLH, is better than '12 Cotto. He stood as a better challenge coming in, and the odds were really close on fight night. And ultimately, I see De La Hoya having won more rounds than Cotto against Mayweather. I had it 8-4 Mayweather. Cotto either gets stopped in whatever round, after getting outboxed. Or gets outboxed widely on the scorecards. I don't see him putting up a better fight than DLH. The DLH fight was clearly won by Floyd, but Oscar definitely tried and didn't exactly get beat up, he just got outboxed.
        Agreed, though i had it 7-5 to Floyd. Oscars height was a big factor in making the fight competitive. Floyd is a better body attacker than Oscar, as Oscar became head hunter later in career. I'm actually picking Cotto to win this fight. Now will I bet against Floyd? Heck NO, but i with the size, and Cotto being a monster at attacking the body, a Hopkins Oscar (even though B Hop is a CW/LHW pretty much) scenario is not out of the question. Ive never gone against Floyd, but he looked sluggish against Ortiz, and Cotto will be more active than Oscar was. Odds are that I am dead wrong, and Floyd wins by wide margin via UD, but I thats just what i feel right now, and i reserve the right to change my mind.

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        • #14
          Besides Floyd of course...can't think of a current WW who could have beaten that version of Oscar at 154.

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          • #15
            Wat r u guys talking about the 07 dlh was about his $,throwing fights n washed up he had Maywether beat but $20mil can def change a boxer n don't forget the Mosley fight the phantom body shot. He sold both those cAuse by then he was done

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            • #16
              Originally posted by -Kev- View Post
              Yeah, lol, it was 5 years ago. Roger speaks from memory, not from the internet or Boxrec. He says ****** things some times, but he's usually right on point with his predictions, even when everyone disagrees with him, the joke ends up being on every one else who was laughing at him.
              Yeah I know. He just reminds me of my uncle. lol. Everyone of his interviews he sounds angry. Not meaning any harm, just his demeanor. Lol

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              • #17
                Cotto's ring IQ is double that of Ortiz's.

                I'm going to laugh so hard if Cotto gives him a tough close fight and his, 'take 30 million and be happy' crap backfires.

                What a pu55y a55 joke Floyd has become.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by S IP U IR S xII View Post
                  Agreed, though i had it 7-5 to Floyd. Oscars height was a big factor in making the fight competitive. Floyd is a better body attacker than Oscar, as Oscar became head hunter later in career. I'm actually picking Cotto to win this fight. Now will I bet against Floyd? Heck NO, but i with the size, and Cotto being a monster at attacking the body, a Hopkins Oscar (even though B Hop is a CW/LHW pretty much) scenario is not out of the question. Ive never gone against Floyd, but he looked sluggish against Ortiz, and Cotto will be more active than Oscar was. Odds are that I am dead wrong, and Floyd wins by wide margin via UD, but I thats just what i feel right now, and i reserve the right to change my mind.
                  That's funny because I have also had that fight 7-5 Floyd. I switch a lot from 8-4 to 7-5 Floyd. Just shows how close that fight really was.

                  Floyd surprised me with the way he looked against Ortiz, I thought he would look worse. He actually was moving pretty quick and his handspeed was there. Ortiz is big at 165lbs, taller than other WW's at 5' 9", he's a southpaw, has an aggressive style, and a lot of power to boot. I thought, minus the controversy, Floyd handled him pretty well, he also handled DLH pretty well.

                  Cotto doesn't have the attributes that Ortiz and DLH have, they are taller and have around the same reach as Floyd, they were bigger on fight night, and Cotto just doesn't have any of these key things. Cotto is short, shorter than Mayweather at least, Cotto has about the same reach as Ricky Raptor Arms Hatton, give or take an inch. And Cotto is not that big at JMW. If memory serves me right, Floyd has like a 5 or 6 inch reach advantage over Cotto. Which is a ridiculous advantage to have over some one, when you fight the way Floyd fights. With that kind of reach advantage and boxing ability, with the small height advantage to go with that, Floyd can actually just easily Klitschko Cotto, just outpoint him to an easy decision. You don't understand just how much is a 5-6 inch reach advantage for some one like Floyd, there are other boxers around Floyd's weight class with his same reach, but the problem comes in with the way Floyd fights and uses it. Floyd has the advantage over Cotto in just about every category except power. Which has been proven to be a non-issue to Floyd.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by Dominicano Soy View Post
                    Besides Floyd of course...can't think of a current WW who could have beaten that version of Oscar at 154.
                    Pacquiao would have stopped him then too imo.

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                    • #20
                      That DLH MAyweather beat would box the **** out of Cotto no question about it.

                      Also the key thing he said here, Cotto is not faster than Ortiz(Who was eating straight right hands like M&M's in that fight).

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