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  • lapulapu
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    #51
    Originally posted by Alisa
    MAB is the best in his division
    Barrera is always the best in any division he fought. The only exception is his fight with Pacquaio. MAB is not the best if he's in the same ring with Pacman, that's for sure. He wasn't only beaten up, he got tortured like his crying fans.

    MAB must seek out and devastate Pacman if he wants to regain his real "lost glory". Destroying washed ups like Ayala and Morales just wont do. He must demand a rematch with Pacquiao and get it over with.

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    • m00ks
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      #52
      Originally posted by Munn
      We agree on most things, really we do. You're right, fighters like MAB do not simply lose hard by that margin. Thus, there was something very ****ing wrong with Barrera. He was not prepared for the speed and power was exactly right too, but, once MAB figured out he was in there with a big/fast puncher, he couldn't suddenly reverse his lack of conditioning! Of course he's gonna "tell" Merchant he's OK to go, what else can you do? MAB would never utter anyhting positive words leading-up to a fight. If you believe the MAB in round one and two against Pac looked like the same MAB as always, then thats your opinion and should lead you to give bigger props to Pac than other people are willing to give.

      We'll just have to disagree on the Pac-MAB story. But when it comes to Pac-Marquez II, I don't see an "unprepared" Marquez, that's all. Marquez by late TKO or, morelikely, UD.
      Personally, I just think he was in there with a fighter who had his number and no amount of preparation would have change that fact. Not that he was lacking anything, had it have been a different fighter Barrera would have likely pulled out with the win. The only thing that was wrong with Barrera that night was that he was in there with the wrong fighter. I just don't believe this bad night bull****. Tell me you got injured. Heck tell me your sox ****ing bothered you, but blaming it on a "bad night", naa I don't buy it.

      With ths way things are looking in Pacquiao's training regimen, I wouldn't be surprised if he pulled out with a UD. I'm convinced however that Marquez cannot beat a 100% fully prepared Pacquiao, but that's only my opinion.

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      • m00ks
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        #53
        Originally posted by lapulapu
        Barrera is always the best in any division he fought. The only exception is his fight with Pacquaio. MAB is not the best if he's in the same ring with Pacman, that's for sure. He wasn't only beaten up, he got tortured like his crying fans.

        MAB must seek out and devastate Pacman if he wants to regain his real "lost glory". Destroying washed ups like Ayala and Morales just wont do. He must demand a rematch with Pacquiao and get it over with.
        Sorry dude, Morales ain't washed up. Just didn't wanna be in that fight as RJJ pointed out. After their second fight, Morales took MAB lightly and was hella unprepared for Barrera's left hand.

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        • fist-of-fury
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          #54
          Originally posted by m00ks
          Personally, I just think he was in there with a fighter who had his number and no amount of preparation would have change that fact. Not that he was lacking anything, had it have been a different fighter Barrera would have likely pulled out with the win. The only thing that was wrong with Barrera that night was that he was in there with the wrong fighter. I just don't believe this bad night bull****. Tell me you got injured. Heck tell me your sox ****ing bothered you, but blaming it on a "bad night", naa I don't buy it.

          With ths way things are looking in Pacquiao's training regimen, I wouldn't be surprised if he pulled out with a UD. I'm convinced however that Marquez cannot beat a 100% fully prepared Pacquiao, but that's only my opinion.
          Well said!! MAB was at the wrong place at the wrong time with the wrong opponent!! Come February, JMM will also be in the very same predicament!!!

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          • Moon
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            #55
            Originally posted by lapulapu
            Barrera is always the best in any division he fought. He must demand a rematch with Pacquiao and get it over with.
            Let's hope that Morales remains in the back seat until MAB-Pac II happens. Because, Barrera could be waiting for awhile. I wonder if there'll be a rematch clause for Pac-JMM? Hope not, so MAB gets a crack at Manny. He was very wise to go back to Morales, 'cause right MAB has a ****-load of bargaining power.

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            • fist-of-fury
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              #56
              Originally posted by jomapac
              i have to agree with you guys JMM being the 2 belt-champ deserve to get at least the same purse as PAC ...

              we should remember that this two guys can really tango, they are made for each other ...
              And I agree with you! JMM is only being fair to himself. What's at stake here are the titles. And with it are recognition, fame and bigger paydays! These are the things that JMM is laying on the table, so he might as well put a hefty price tag on them.

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              • m00ks
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                #57
                Originally posted by Munn
                Let's hope that Morales remains in the back seat until MAB-Pac II happens. Because, Barrera could be waiting for awhile. I wonder if there'll be a rematch clause for Pac-JMM? Hope not, so MAB gets a crack at Manny. He was very wise to go back to Morales, 'cause right MAB has a ****-load of bargaining power.
                I dunno if there is a rematch clause seeing as this is ALREADY a rematch and with the first one ending up in a draw, a third encounter , while alwyas possible, is unlikely in my opinion. If Manny wins, and JMM demands a rematch, it has probably more of a possibility than if JMM wins it. In any case both fighters have different agendas after the fight. There ARE other big fights in the division. Barrera Chi, Harrison, Juarez, even a Morales fight, possibilites are endless

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                • JaNnO
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by fist-of-fury
                  And I agree with you! JMM is only being fair to himself. What's at stake here are the titles. And with it are recognition, fame and bigger paydays! These are the things that JMM is laying on the table, so he might as well put a hefty price tag on them.
                  marquez has all the right to ask what he thinks is due to him. but pac's belt ring carries more recognition and he is ahead of marquez in the p4p list. i don't think marquez is putting more on the line that pac.

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                  • m00ks
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by JaNnO
                    marquez has all the right to ask what he thinks is due to him. but pac's belt ring carries more recognition and he is ahead of marquez in the p4p list. i don't think marquez is putting more on the line that pac.
                    If Marez beats PAcquiao, his popularity would shoot right through the roof. you are right.

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                    • bigsmoothh
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by lapulapu
                      Barrera is always the best in any division he fought. The only exception is his fight with Pacquaio. MAB is not the best if he's in the same ring with Pacman, that's for sure. He wasn't only beaten up, he got tortured like his crying fans.

                      MAB must seek out and devastate Pacman if he wants to regain his real "lost glory". Destroying washed ups like Ayala and Morales just wont do. He must demand a rematch with Pacquiao and get it over with.


                      wtf are u and the rest of yall punkasses talkin bout "lost glory" yall nut hugg on pac too damn much it makes me feel sorry for yalls lame asses. a loss to pac doesnt take anything from barrera hes still shining WHY are yall (ASIANS) sayin all this ****** **** bout lost glory or pac is indestructible. thats bull**** get the **** cleaned out of your head.

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