Comments Thread For: Sauerland: Povetkin-Rahman is Next, Not Huck Rematch

[nomadman]

The division is God awful at the moment because the top contenders will not fight one another and are content to take on unranked and/or washed up opposition. There is simply no depth because these pretenders refuse to take any chances that they may lose their ABC ranking or a payday. To put it simply, the heavyweight division has no balls.

That's why I appreciate fight-anyone types like Chisora and Helenius, even though Chisora's now getting criticised for losing, even though all his losses were competitive, and in the case of Helenius a downright robbery. If more contenders were like these two (minus the out of the ring exploits obviously) then we'd have a much more exciting division.

The heavyweight division at the moment is too much like a bunch of roads all leading to destination Klitschko but never crossing over each other to get there. That seems to be changing a little, however. We can but hope.

[Superflo777]

Manny and Floyd beat the best in and around their division. Huck isn't even the best cruiserweight and you think he should be ranked among the top heavyweights? Sorry Flo, but that's a joke! The division stinks because guys like Povetkin are content to fight guys like Huck. Wlad is content to fight Mormeck. Rahman is a rated contender when he hasn't even fought a rated fighter since Wlad. I can go on and on, but do I really have to?

Huck is rated at the number 4 cruserweight and Manny and Floyd probably were around the Top 2 when they moved up to light middle, so there isn't much difference there. Huck had a 15 win streak, wins against undefeated contenders and cruiserweight champion for 2 years. Huck and Povetkin have the same promoter and Huck is pretty popular in Germany, so it's a big payday, just like Floyd-De La Hoya was a big payday. I'm not saying Huck is good just saying it's understandable he got a title shot and it says nothing about the division really.

[nomadman]

if rahman is in decent shape then povetkin better not get hit with the rights he was getting hit with last night. rahman has been paid twice to step aside & has been watching povetkin fight. povetkin has never faced a real puncher. rahman has one punch knock out power.he has a great jab & big right. this will be povetkin's toughest test. i think rahman has a real shot at winning this fight. rahman will hold him inside then jab him from outside. rahman will be in the 240-250 range & i don't think povetkin can knock rahman out. povetkin better be in better shape then he was vs huck.rahman is strong & you can bet he will lean on him...

You've got to be kidding.

[JAB5239]

That's why I appreciate fight-anyone types like Chisora and Helenius, even though Chisora's now getting criticised for losing, even though all his losses were competitive, and in the case of Helenius a downright robbery. If more contenders were like these two (minus the out of the ring exploits obviously) then we'd have a much more exciting division.

The heavyweight division at the moment is too much like a bunch of roads all leading to destination Klitschko but never crossing over each other to get there. That seems to be changing a little, however. We can but hope.

I though Helenius was being brought along the right way, and Chisora has earned my respect (inside the ring). I agree with the point you've made and also hope other fighters will follow their lead.

[JAB5239]

Huck is rated at the number 4 cruserweight and Manny and Floyd probably were around the Top 2 when they moved up to light middle, so there isn't much difference there. Huck had a 15 win streak, wins against undefeated contenders and cruiserweight champion for 2 years. Huck and Povetkin have the same promoter and Huck is pretty popular in Germany, so it's a big payday, just like Floyd-De La Hoya was a big payday. I'm not saying Huck is good just saying it's understandable he got a title shot and it says nothing about the division really.

Dude, just stop. Manny and Floyd are the two best p4p fighters in the world moving up 7lbs. There is a reason neither is clamoring for a fight at 160 though. Huck was in against a guy nearly 30lbs heavier than his last opponent. He hasn't proven he can beat the best in his own division, but we should consider him a top heavy? Really now, he much sense does that make?

[Superflo777]

Dude, just stop. Manny and Floyd are the two best p4p fighters in the world moving up 7lbs. There is a reason neither is clamoring for a fight at 160 though. Huck was in against a guy nearly 30lbs heavier than his last opponent. He hasn't proven he can beat the best in his own division, but we should consider him a top heavy? Really now, he much sense does that make?

Let's just agree to disagree. My point made sense because I don't see why Floyd and Manny getting immediate title shots should be completely OK but Huck getting a shot at a fake paper belt title shot only because he's 2 steps lower in the rankings is not OK makes no sense. Now you try to modify your point by saying the weight difference is bigger, he hasn't proved he's the best cruiserweight (but Manny and Floyd have proved they're the best welterweights without fighting each other?) but I think I won that argument.

[nomadman]

Huck is rated at the number 4 cruserweight and Manny and Floyd probably were around the Top 2 when they moved up to light middle, so there isn't much difference there. Huck had a 15 win streak, wins against undefeated contenders and cruiserweight champion for 2 years. Huck and Povetkin have the same promoter and Huck is pretty popular in Germany, so it's a big payday, just like Floyd-De La Hoya was a big payday. I'm not saying Huck is good just saying it's understandable he got a title shot and it says nothing about the division really.

I don't consider Povetkin a title holder so didn't get really hung up on Huck being "unworthy of the shot" or any of that. He was a decent CW with a good fan following and an exciting style. He produced a great fight. Cool. Wish people would stop complaining.

[The Hammer]

I don't consider Povetkin a title holder so didn't get really hung up on Huck being "unworthy of the shot" or any of that. He was a decent CW with a good fan following and an exciting style. He produced a great fight. Cool. Wish people would stop complaining.

So do I.

Apparently, some people in the late 80s were saying Tyson wasn't really any good, that the heavyweight division was awful and that Ali would have schooled him. Back in the 60s, some were saying Ali wasn't so good, that there was just no one as good as Joe Louis to beat him.

Some older people think everything was better when they were young, and frequently complain about the present.

[JAB5239]

Let's just agree to disagree. My point made sense because I don't see why Floyd and Manny getting immediate title shots should be completely OK but Huck getting a shot at a fake paper belt title shot only because he's 2 steps lower in the rankings is not OK makes no sense. Now you try to modify your point by saying the weight difference is bigger, he hasn't proved he's the best cruiserweight (but Manny and Floyd have proved they're the best welterweights without fighting each other?) but I think I won that argument.

Lol, you think you won the argument? You said Huck was a top contender. The FACT is he wasn't. He's not even the best fighter in his own division. The fact he was so competitive with the 3rd best heavyweight in the world just reinforces how bad the heavyweight division really is. I got no problem with him fighting Povetkin, especially because it made for a decent scrap. But lets not pretend this guy was anywhere on the heavyweight radar before yesterday. That simply isn't true and we both know it.

[Superflo777]

Lol, you think you won the argument? You said Huck was a top contender. The FACT is he wasn't. He's not even the best fighter in his own division. The fact he was so competitive with the 3rd best heavyweight in the world just reinforces how bad the heavyweight division really is. I got no problem with him fighting Povetkin, especially because it made for a decent scrap. But lets not pretend this guy was anywhere on the heavyweight radar before yesterday. That simply isn't true and we both know it.

I never said Huck was a top heavyweight. Seriously.