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  • Kagami Taiga
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    #41
    he'll probably need one, but hes probably already lost. i didnt think hed win a decision over alexander anyways.

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    • El Malo.
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      #42
      Nah as crude n ruff as Maidana is he is on his on league. His a truth machine for anyone who want's to step up in competition. If you can get past his pressure style for 12 rounds then chances are that you might do well with the rest of the top fighters.

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      • turkas
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        #43
        Blah blah blah, people on boxing scene b!tching about Alexander fights again, no surprise here. Posters on here really need to get a clue and realise the difference between a "robbery" and a close fight.

        In both Alexander fights people call robberies, they were actually close fights with arguments that could be made for either fighter winning. That doesn't mean they were a robbery. A robbery was last what happened in the Cloud fight on Saturday, there is no argument to be made for him winning that fight, none. Never the less, I am beating a dead horse because most of the posters on here can't see things objectively and hate Alexander for some reason.

        As for the Maidana fight, I think it's gonna be a good scrap that will probalby produce a KO (from either fighter), I think Devon will get a lot of respect back win or lose.

        I am willing to put all of my points on Devon winning this fight so if I have any takers just let me know.

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          #44
          Originally posted by bojangles1987
          Matthysse was close, I don't deny that, but it was still a fight he had no case for winning. Scoring 5 rounds for each is reasonable, but that's the most you can score for Alexander if you're being generous, and that still leaves him down a point. Matthysse won, there's no argument otherwise. Kotelnik won at least 7, that's all you need.

          You shouldn't need to do extra work to win a fight in any case, I don't care who you are fighting or where it is. If a guy wins, he wins, he shouldn't have to win 10 rounds to get a draw or 1 point win. If Kotelnik and Matthysse didn't get it, in fights where they won, no argument about it, Maidana is screwed if he doesn't get a KO.
          i think alexander had a case for beating matthysse, so lets agree to disagree there and agree it was close.

          i agree there should be no such thing as hometown advantage, but we both know there is, not just in boxing either. the whole thing with marketability effecting results is mainly a boxing thing ofcourse and its a shame, but its the way it is. i even tell myself as an amateur to really win big whenever im fighting some guy in his hometown, thats boxing.

          your final statement is pure and utter BS. what you are saying is if a fighter loses a razor thin decision he probably shouldve won but didnt that means another fighter cant get a decision under any terms, even if he pitches a shut out. thats ******. they probably won but they didnt win wide enough, maidana just needs to win wider but he doesnt need a KO.

          and lets not forget maidana is a much bigger name in america than matthysse and kotelnik. hes been in lots of fights just as big as this and came out on top in fights as big as this, hes got HBO and GBP backing him and hes a ****er which makes him a potential big draw in the future (why they backing him). hes far less likely to get jobbed than some guy whos career basicly started in teh minds of american fans when he got off the plane in teh states.

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          • bojangles1987
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            #45
            Originally posted by #1Assassin
            i think alexander had a case for beating matthysse, so lets agree to disagree there and agree it was close.

            i agree there should be no such thing as hometown advantage, but we both know there is, not just in boxing either. the whole thing with marketability effecting results is mainly a boxing thing ofcourse and its a shame, but its the way it is. i even tell myself as an amateur to really win big whenever im fighting some guy in his hometown, thats boxing.

            your final statement is pure and utter BS. what you are saying is if a fighter loses a razor thin decision he probably shouldve won but didnt that means another fighter cant get a decision under any terms, even if he pitches a shut out. thats ******. they probably won but they didnt win wide enough, maidana just needs to win wider but he doesnt need a KO.

            and lets not forget maidana is a much bigger name in america than matthysse and kotelnik. hes been in lots of fights just as big as this and came out on top in fights as big as this, hes got HBO and GBP backing him and hes a ****er which makes him a potential big draw in the future (why they backing him). hes far less likely to get jobbed than some guy whos career basicly started in teh minds of american fans when he got off the plane in teh states.
            Kotelnik won 7 or 8 rounds, yet only got 4 on the judge's scorecards. If he doesn't get that decision, how can anyone expect Maidana to get a decision? They didn't win wide enough? THAT'S BS, winning is winning, you shouldn't have to win by a large margin to get a close decision. If winning 7 or 8 rounds only gets you 4 in St. Louis, Maidana could win 10 and only get 5.

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            • #1Assassin
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              #46
              Originally posted by Elzilcho.-
              Nah as crude n ruff as Maidana is he is on his on league. His a truth machine for anyone who want's to step up in competition. If you can get past his pressure style for 12 rounds then chances are that you might do well with the rest of the top fighters.
              heeeeell no.

              its the exact oposite. maidana is the kind of guy who can get lucky against anyone if one of his wild crazy swings land, but most likely they wont. if his oponent is half decent he will probably box circles around maidana and get an easy W and a confidence builder.

              aint no truth when it comes to maidana, hes hype. just another puncher who cant fight for **** but gives mainstream fans a hard on bcuz of his power.

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              • EdMon917
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                #47
                Of course Maidana is screwed in this fight. No fair shake at all he will need to KO Alexander if he wants to win this fight.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by bojangles1987
                  Kotelnik won 7 or 8 rounds, yet only got 4 on the judge's scorecards. If he doesn't get that decision, how can anyone expect Maidana to get a decision? They didn't win wide enough? THAT'S BS, winning is winning, you shouldn't have to win by a large margin to get a close decision. If winning 7 or 8 rounds only gets you 4 in St. Louis, Maidana could win 10 and only get 5.
                  im not justifiying the robbery, ofcourse a robbery is a robbery. my point still stands though. you cant say its impossible to win a decision anywhere bcuz it isnt, it might be hard and you might have to win bigger than you should and yes thats unfair. but you still cant say hes got no chance to get a decision simply bcuz kotelnik and matthyse didnt get one when they didnt even win that ****ing big.

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                  • Russian Crushin
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by #1Assassin
                    heeeeell no.

                    its the exact oposite. maidana is the kind of guy who can get lucky against anyone if one of his wild crazy swings land, but most likely they wont. if his oponent is half decent he will probably box circles around maidana and get an easy W and a confidence builder.

                    aint no truth when it comes to maidana, hes hype. just another puncher who cant fight for **** but gives mainstream fans a hard on bcuz of his power.
                    Nobody has had an easy fight with Maidana, win or lose, nobody

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                    • kiaba360
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by El C@cique@PR
                      He will need a KO, or 4 KDs to win the fight.

                      Other than that he is toast!!
                      ****, he would need to put Devon down every round to get a decision win lmao, jk. But honestly, if I have Maidana up on my scorecard and he loses by a wider margin than what I have him winning, then we can call it a robbery.

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