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Nonito Donaire vs. Victor Terrazas in July at Cowboys Stadium
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Originally posted by crold1 View Post\
I'm not making excuses. At all. I've been critical of Donaire, particularly his choice to move out of boxing best weight class into one of its worst and not going after the only fight at 22 that matters right away.
Look it up.
You got the wrong dude.
Of what's left at 22, this just doesn't bug me. He just had his hands full with WV2 and was pedestrian if dominant over Narvaez. There's a good chance that he's not as good as he looks when he looks beastly.
I've already started moving him down from where I had him in the circle j. I don't preclude doing that further.
i know who u are, and i ususally agree with your posts/write ups on a lot, but to me, if donaire is gonna move up to this weak ass division, he should do it just to fight the fighters that matter. u dont move away from 118 to fight terrazas, thats insane. its nuts and it makes next to no sense either. i cant excuse it just because its a decent fight, donaire shouldnt get excused for fighting decent fight after decent fight. if he cant live up to the hype, then he deserves to get called out on it. no more passes for the guy.
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Originally posted by 4CornersKid View PostI agree with everyone you said. Donaire's best wins are still Vic Darchinyan, Fernando Montiel, Hernan Marquez, and Raul Martinez. Montiel was a great win, Vic was a very good win at the time, and Marquez/Martinez were decent wins. There have definitely been a ton of guys that have done way more by the time they were 29. By the time Floyd was 29, he already had decent, good, or great wins over G. Hernandez, Manfredy, Gerena, Corrales, C. Hernandez, Chavez, Castillo, N'dou, and Judah, which is far superior what Nonito has done so far. To me at least.
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Originally posted by The Gambler1981 View PostOr he could knock out Rigondeuax or Nishioka to satify people obsessed with other stupid shit~ Can't please everyone and only a stupid dude would try.
Rigondaux and Nishioka are good opponents but they are not above reproach and aren't great merely good, so getting twisted over them is foolish imo~Last edited by daggum; 02-21-2012, 02:27 AM.
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Originally posted by 4CornersKid View PostI agree with everyone you said. Donaire's best wins are still Vic Darchinyan, Fernando Montiel, Hernan Marquez, and Raul Martinez. Montiel was a great win, Vic was a very good win at the time, and Marquez/Martinez were decent wins. There have definitely been a ton of guys that have done way more by the time they were 29. By the time Floyd was 29, he already had decent, good, or great wins over G. Hernandez, Manfredy, Gerena, Corrales, C. Hernandez, Chavez, Castillo, N'dou, and Judah, which is far superior what Nonito has done so far. To me at least.
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Originally posted by DempseyRollin View Postwow, i missed this post, my fault
i know who u are, and i ususally agree with your posts/write ups on a lot, but to me, if donaire is gonna move up to this weak ass division, he should do it just to fight the fighters that matter. u dont move away from 118 to fight terrazas, thats insane. its nuts and it makes next to no sense either. i cant excuse it just because its a decent fight, donaire shouldnt get excused for fighting decent fight after decent fight. if he cant live up to the hype, then he deserves to get called out on it. no more passes for the guy.Last edited by Doctor_Tenma; 02-21-2012, 03:02 AM.
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donaire can use the who is rigo excuse for a bit but it will soon run out of bite. if mares and moreno move up to 122 he will be forced to go to 126 to fight another slow plodder. we saw floyd do this to perfection(corrales, castillo, gatti, baldomir) and avoid all the slick fighters in those divisions, but even the great floyd eventually got caught at 147 because he had nowhere else to go and he had to fake retirements but donarie still has a bunch of divisions he can navigate through before it comes to that.
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Originally posted by daggum View Postphillip ndou? you do realize that guy sucked don't you? 32-1 31 knockouts! except his resume was.............poop. this terrazas guy is much better than him but that doesn't mean donaire should fight him. he should strive to be a better cherry picker than floyd.
Also, he else should he have fought at LW in 2003??? N'dou was a ranked LW. I guess he could have fought Spadafora, Grigorian, Doroftei, or Johnston, but people would have just talked s**t about those too.
I swear if this website was around in 60's, 70's, and 80's, it'd be amazing to see what people would say. Muhammad Ali is fighting Liston's leftovers, Patterson is shot.
God, it's ridiculous.Last edited by 4Corners; 02-21-2012, 10:54 AM.
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Terranza is a solid boxer he's just not as known and publicized as the Cubans are. He comes to fight.Kid is strong.This is why it will tougher than what people expected.
Everyone thinks Donaire is going KTFO a lot of his opponents. Well, i've watched enough fights of Donaire to know that if you have sound defense and do not go reaching in for a KO.Nonito wont KO your ass.
I expect this fight to go the distance and it will be competitive and exciting.Nonito learns to break down his opponent by attacking the belly he might TKO Terranza in the 10 th.
Rigo hasn't done much to deserve quick hands outs he has to keep winning and beat better opposition then he will get a shot.He hasn't done much in his 9 fight career to be honest.Last edited by Filo; 02-21-2012, 01:22 PM.
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