Comments Thread For: Vitali Gets Medical Review, Left Shoulder Injury Confirmed

[Thickear]

When Haye presented his toe as the reason for defeat by Wlad everybody ridiculed him, especially the Klitschkos. Now Vitali (I don't like to make excuses but ...) Klitschko is making the same baby noises and deserves to be ridiculed for it too even though he won the fight. He called Chisora a coward for the weigh-in slap and we were supposed to see him make Del Boy pay for it the brutal way but the "coward" came forward all night while Klitschko backed off throughout. Any time Vitali tried to up the ante and unload (with both hands, not one) Chisora fired straight back and it was the big guy who didn't want prolonged head-to-head exchanges. Reach, and the know-how to make best use of it won the fight, but the crazy one did more than alright for a guy with still little experience at high level.

[JAB5239]

Yeah because Chisora's performance totally equals Vitali's epic performance against Lewis .

Not really. Lewis came in at a career high in weight and had been out of the ring for over a year. Vitaly was said to be in the best shape of his career and was fighting a guy with only 17 pro fights. In comparison, Klit had nearly twice that many fights when he was stopped by Lewis.

[kenso]

Not really. Lewis came in at a career high in weight and had been out of the ring for over a year. Vitaly was said to be in the best shape of his career and was fighting a guy with only 17 pro fights. In comparison, Klit had nearly twice that many fights when he was stopped by Lewis.

vitali was winning on the cards, and wasn't far from stopping lewis in round 2. in general, it is kind of "unlucky" to get cut in a fight. if the victory was so clear cut, people wouldn't still be arguing about it nearly a decade later. lewis "cut" vitali, he did not "stop" him. if lewis would have put vitali on the canvas, things would be regarded different today. however, that wasn't the case. lewis was clearly losing this fight and never offered a rematch.

lewis did come indeed come in out of shape - and that surely contributed to his poor performance against vitali. but fortune was on lewis' side that he was able to land a somewhat glancing blow and cut vitali. if there was no cut - he was not winning the fight that night. lewis should have had a rematch and came back in top form to clear things up. but he didn't, he retired instead.


but what i want to know, is what does that have to do with vitali beating chisora? oh yea, nothing.

[Jedi Vader]

vitali was winning on the cards, and wasn't far from stopping lewis in round 2. in general, it is kind of "unlucky" to get cut in a fight. if the victory was so clear cut, people wouldn't still be arguing about it nearly a decade later. lewis "cut" vitali, he did not "stop" him. if lewis would have put vitali on the canvas, things would be regarded different today. however, that wasn't the case. lewis was clearly losing this fight and never offered a rematch.

Continuous punching in the same area usually brings about blood or a gash. To label that unlucky is laughably deluded and ignorant.

lewis did come indeed come in out of shape - and that surely contributed to his poor performance against vitali. but fortune was on lewis' side that he was able to land a somewhat glancing blow and cut vitali. if there was no cut - he was not winning the fight that night. lewis should have had a rematch and came back in top form to clear things up. but he didn't, he retired instead.

Only Klitlickers argue blind that a fighter has won even though he has been TKO'd into submission.

but what i want to know, is what does that have to do with vitali beating chisora? oh yea, nothing.

So why add your 2 cents worth of Klit-Lewis diarrhoea to the Chisora debate then??

[JAB5239]

vitali was winning on the cards, and wasn't far from stopping lewis in round 2. in general, it is kind of "unlucky" to get cut in a fight. if the victory was so clear cut, people wouldn't still be arguing about it nearly a decade later. lewis "cut" vitali, he did not "stop" him. if lewis would have put vitali on the canvas, things would be regarded different today. however, that wasn't the case. lewis was clearly losing this fight and never offered a rematch.

lewis did come indeed come in out of shape - and that surely contributed to his poor performance against vitali. but fortune was on lewis' side that he was able to land a somewhat glancing blow and cut vitali. if there was no cut - he was not winning the fight that night. lewis should have had a rematch and came back in top form to clear things up. but he didn't, he retired instead.


but what i want to know, is what does that have to do with vitali beating chisora? oh yea, nothing.

He didn't stop Lewis in the 2nd. A fight is 12 rounds unless stopped before. There is no such thing as luck when you're punching to do damage and it occurs, and you would have to ask whoever brought Lewis into the conversation what has to do with what. I didn't bring it up, only responded. My apologies if it offended you so much, but boxing discussions tend to go like that.

[jreckoning]

Vit is such a boss.

Whips a guy for 8 rounds with one hand.

[Daddy T]

lol at hypocrites here making the shoulder an excuse - he didn't have that injury before the fight so F on that. Any injury you get DURING a fight doesn't mean squat, if your fighting some guy and get injured during said fight, you can't use that as an excuse. Do people say Sonny Liston got a shoulder injury against cassius clay so he didn't really lose the fight? It reminds me a bit of the Lewis business/byrd, whenever Vitali doesn't completely dominate an opponent people have to start using excuses. If he went into the fight with a busted up shoulder it would be one thing but he didn't, it was an injury incurred due to fighting chisora so suck on that. Insult Haye over his toe but then turn around and use an injury in defence of Vitali lol.

Why not just say " 40 year old Vitali beat a young game opponent after a hard tough fight?" and shut up about excuses as to why he didn't knock him out or whatever.

[jreckoning]

lol at hypocrites here making the shoulder an excuse - he didn't have that injury before the fight so F on that. Any injury you get DURING a fight doesn't mean squat, if your fighting some guy and get injured you can't use that as an excuse. Do people say Sonny Liston got a shoulder injury against cassius clay so he didn't really lose the fight? It reminds me a bit of the Lewis business/byrd, whenever he doesn't completely dominate an opponent people have to start using excuses. If he went into the fight with a busted up shoulder it would be one thing but he didn't it was an injury incurred due to fighting chisora so suck on that. Insult Haye over his toe but then turn around and use an injury in defence of Vitali lol.

Why not just say " 40 year old Vitali beat a young game opponent after a hard tough fight?" and shut up about excuses as to why he didn't knock him out or whatever.

Vit did it with one hand.
Haye couldn't even do it with a toe.

He did dominate the guy. Quite impressed he did it so long with one hand.
Should be praised.

[Daddy T]

Vit did it with one hand.
Haye couldn't even do it with a toe.

He did dominate the guy. Quite impressed he did it so long with one hand.
Should be praised.

if you want to see somebody fighting with one hand watch this - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QY1jzjTjIhY

don't overstate what vitali did, he was not fighting with one hand, sure his shoulder might have been hurt but he still had the use of the arm.

[Superflo777]

lol at hypocrites here making the shoulder an excuse - he didn't have that injury before the fight so F on that. Any injury you get DURING a fight doesn't mean squat, if your fighting some guy and get injured during said fight, you can't use that as an excuse.

Sorry but you got it just the wrong way. First, it's not an excuse. Second, an injury incurred BEFORE the fight shouldn't even be admitted by the fighter because he knew he was going into that fight with an injury. An injury happening during a fight can be mentioned as a reason you couldn't knock your opponent down but still won.