Props to Pacquiao for taking on Bradley.

[Reloaded]

As predicted.

I stated two things last year, when these same posters were on the "Manny is ducking slick AA" fighters:

1. Manny was going to fight Bradley

2. Fight get signed, then Bradley turns into a cherry picked bum.

Bradley is not a bum he is very good fighter he was signed by Bob for this very fight so whats new , Tim in this fight was Mannys ticket to duck a non CW Cotto , thats what its about , you just turn a blind eye to why Arum picked Bradley by trying to hype Bradley up to be a great WW fight , Pac himself wanted Cotto only with another BS CW , I dont mind this fight at all from a boxing perspective , because I think Bradley will be very dangerous , not because he special , I dont think Tim could win a single round against Floyd , I dont might the fight because I think Pac is over rated and Bradley is a live dog , its JMM all over again to a lesser degree , believe me Pac is in trouble whenever he is in with a real one without a draining CW or being shot .

Pac has manipulated weights and measures to suit himself and you fanboys swallow it all and then brag about it , fans dont understand the science of the sport , fans see a fight not much more , add demographic and media hype and what fan cares about science when its about " their guy " , Roach obviously cares about science in a real big way lol .

[hugh grant]

Cotto never said that the he minded the catchweight, but Cotto saying that or not doesn't take the point out of perspective: Manny's win over DLH and Cotto had any legacy-worthy value removed because there were catchweights involved.

Catchweights were used when a guy like Roy Jones moved up from LHW to HW to face a HW titlist, but even then RJJ did not ask for a catchweight because he is a true champion. Still you defend a man like Pacquiao stipulating a catchweight for 3-5 pounds? LOL .. its that kind of priceless ******ity that makes this site unique.

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Well considering Ruiz universally recognised just about as the worst heavyweight champ of all time of course theres no need for CW. Do u think RJJ would even fight Lennox lewis?
Ruiz cant be compared to Cotto. Cotto is a decent champ and highly regarded at the time.
If FLoyd asked Sergio for a CW of 154 people would just be delighted floyd decided to fight someone. Wouldnt criticise Floyd, which Pac critics do as theyve nothing better to do. No one should ever criticize Pac for fighting. Only have a go at Pac as they are embarassed with Floyds no fighting policy and trying to divert attention away from him.

He always knew it.

The truth is that if you are going to make it seem like you are moving up and taking on legacy worthy challenges, they should actually be legacy worthy.

His catchweight fights were NOT legacy worthy.

His fight against banned cheater Margarito@154lbs was DEFINITELY NOT legacy worthy.

Take those fights away and Pacquiao's run at WW begins to look like what it really always was:

Average.

You continue to avoid his 40 fights against bums.

You partially address the catchweights but avoid discussing the effect they have on his WW run.

You constantly avoid discussing the fact that DLH, Hatton, Cotto, Clottey, Margarito and Mosley were ALL coming off the biggest losses of their careers before Pacquiao was willing to face them. Manny was being actively pursued by them while they were on top, but he refused to fight them.

That's not an impressive record. An impressive record comes from fighting the best and winning. The best are those ranked 1, 2 and 3. How many fighters were at the top when Pacquiao fought them?

Pacquiao got knocked out by bums. He got outboxed by a man not known for his boxing skills: Erik Morales! JMM has shown the world that Pacquiao is a lot of hype.

You can believe whatever you like. Maybe Pacquiao is great by YOUR standards, but he is hardly great because he padded his record with 40 fights, got knocked out twice against the bums he was padding his record against, and then began stipulating catchweight fights to make it seem like he was doing something special when he came in the ring heavier than his most of his opponents on fight night.

You lose. You're just too ****** to know it.

lol your opinion is in complete contrast to camp Mayweather. They acknowledge what Pac has done is nothing short of amazing, so that just makes you look like a complete hater and bitter. Stop speaking from the heart rather than head.

[Brother Jay]

Ortiz couldnt even KO Maidana.

It's an illusion for dummies that Ortiz is a beast at 147. Bradley's beats the crap out of overrated Berto and Ortiz.

If you believe this, then let Maidana come up to 147 and let's see what he's got. Be prepared to be disappointed though as you clearly have no idea how competing at just one division above can make a fighter a different fighter.

[Chuckguy]

Ortiz couldnt even KO Maidana.

It's an illusion for dummies that Ortiz is a beast at 147. Bradley's beats the crap out of overrated Berto and Ortiz.

Says the guy with the euro bum as a avi
who the hell has Pirog beat? and

who has KO'd Maidana?

[Jim Jeffries]

If you believe this, then let Maidana come up to 147 and let's see what he's got. Be prepared to be disappointed though as you clearly have no idea how competing at just one division above can make a fighter a different fighter.

Aren't you the same dude who defended Marquez jumping up 2 divisions (when he had already recently jumped up one) to fight Floyd?

[Brother Jay]

Well considering Ruiz universally recognised just about as the worst heavyweight champ of all time of course theres no need for CW. Do u think RJJ would even fight Lennox lewis?
Ruiz cant be compared to Cotto. Cotto is a decent champ and highly regarded at the time.
If FLoyd asked Sergio for a CW of 154 people would just be delighted floyd decided to fight someone. Wouldnt criticise Floyd, which Pac critics do as theyve nothing better to do. No one should ever criticize Pac for fighting.

This is exactly what peasants do: You speak besides the point because your left weak and powerless to discuss the merits at hand.

Roy Jones went up 27lbs to fight a man who still outweighed him by over 20lbs. That would have been an appropriate time for a catchweight. That was the point we were discussing. Try to stay focused. Pacquiao stipulating fighters who are 4lbs larger than himself to sweat down was nothing more than an attempt to beat them on the scales BEFORE the match.

Think about it.

lol your opinion is in complete contrast to camp Mayweather. They acknowledge what Pac has done is nothing short of amazing, so that just makes you look like a complete hater and bitter. Stop speaking from the heart rather than head.

What the Mayweathers acknowledge is that Pacquiao has beaten men who few gave him a chance to beat. There's a difference between that and conducting one's career in such a way for it to be recognized as comparable to the best of this era.

What you're trying to suggest is that because I believe that Mayweather has achieved much more against better competition, I am a hater due to Team Mayweather feeling differently? You think Team Mayweather feels differently?

LOL ... think about what you're saying. Un-jumble your brain, son.

[hugh grant]

This is exactly what peasants do: You speak besides the point because your left weak and powerless to discuss the merits at hand.

Roy Jones went up 27lbs to fight a man who still outweighed him by over 20lbs. That would have been an appropriate time for a catchweight. That was the point we were discussing. Try to stay focused. Pacquiao stipulating fighters who are 4lbs larger than himself to sweat down was nothing more than an attempt to beat them on the scales BEFORE the match.

Think about it.



What the Mayweathers acknowledge is that Pacquiao has beaten men who few gave him a chance to beat. There's a difference between that and conducting one's career in such a way for it to be recognized as comparable to the best of this era.

What you're trying to suggest is that because I believe that Mayweather has achieved much more against better competition, I am a hater due to Team Mayweather feeling differently? You think Team Mayweather feels differently?

LOL ... think about what you're saying. Un-jumble your brain, son.

Get over it son and stop making excuses for Floyds non fighting policy and stop feeling embarassed by it and try diverting attention away from Floyd.

Pac gets fights made and fights. Doesnt hide in other weight classes to aviod fighting like Floyd does.
Stop speaking from the heart as you will come to the wrong conclusions. Think with your head and you will come to the same conclusions as the people who award Pac FOTD.

[Brother Jay]

Aren't you the same dude who defended Marquez jumping up 2 divisions to fight Floyd?

What was wrong with Marquez coming up?

Unlike Pacquiao, Floyd doesn't try to make that fight seem like he was blazing any trails unless he actually is.

Marquez was Floyd's first fight back after taking 2008 off. Floyd's win over Marquez didn't warrant any "ooo's" or "ahhh's".

Yet, Floyd outboxed Marquez. He didn't bully him. He didn't use his size. He didn't apply any real power in that match aside from the one knockdown .. and even that was just a flash knockdown.

Marquez at WW was no huge feather in Floyd's cap. Real boxing fans acknowledge that. Now with that said, if you even think you're even half a boxing fan, acknowledge that *******s embellish Manny's wins at WW .. which were all against men who were coming off the biggest defeats of their careers.

What kind of character do you have?

You got big balls? Or are you working with a mangina?

[Jim Jeffries]

What was wrong with Marquez coming up?

Unlike Pacquiao, Floyd doesn't try to make that fight seem like he was blazing any trails unless he actually is.

Marquez was Floyd's first fight back after taking 2008 off. Floyd's win over Marquez didn't warrant any "ooo's" or "ahhh's".

Yet, Floyd outboxed Marquez. He didn't bully him. He didn't use his size. He didn't apply any real power in that match aside from the one knockdown .. and even that was just a flash knockdown.

Marquez at WW was no huge feather in Floyd's cap. Real boxing fans acknowledge that. Now with that said, if you even think you're even half a boxing fan, acknowledge that *******s embellish Manny's wins at WW .. which were all against men who were coming off the biggest defeats of their careers.

What kind of character do you have?

You got big balls? Or are you working with a mangina?

Paragraphs, kiddo. Take a deep breath and rewrite this so someone can read it.

[Teri]

What was wrong with Marquez coming up?

Unlike Pacquiao, Floyd doesn't try to make that fight seem like he was blazing any trails unless he actually is.

Marquez was Floyd's first fight back after taking 2008 off. Floyd's win over Marquez didn't warrant any "ooo's" or "ahhh's".

Yet, Floyd outboxed Marquez. He didn't bully him. He didn't use his size. He didn't apply any real power in that match aside from the one knockdown .. and even that was just a flash knockdown.

Marquez at WW was no huge feather in Floyd's cap. Real boxing fans acknowledge that. Now with that said, if you even think you're even half a boxing fan, acknowledge that *******s embellish Manny's wins at WW .. which were all against men who were coming off the biggest defeats of their careers.

What kind of character do you have?

You got big balls? Or are you working with a mangina?

Jim and Hugh Grant are trolls with no logical comeback man just give it a rest and let those idiots continue ranting you know floyd is never in a winning situation