Comments Thread For: Vitali Klitschko: Our Fight, It Made Lennox Lewis Retire

[jimmy1569]

The amount of rounds a fighter won doesn't matter if that fighter gets stopped. When a fighter gets stopped he still loses the fight, regardless of how many rounds he was winning on he judges scorecards. There have been fighters that were up by way more than 4 rounds to 2 on judges scorecards and lost the fight because they got stopped. And just so you know, Vitali is really the only Heavyweight fighter I really like to watch today. I think he is the best in the division over his brother. This has nothing to do with me disliking Vitali, this is just the truth.

Look... i appreciate the sweet science lesson... i really do..... but find me one fight that ended in the EXACT same circumstances as Vitali's two defeats & i'll gladly agree with you... similar.. yes... the same NO. ViTALI... FIRST of all is the ONLY ONE in boxing history to have his two sole defeats end in such an incomplete manner while winning those bouts in a convincing manner. What fighter has ever quit in a title bout in the manner Vitali was winning it... undefeated... all wins by ko up to that point & retired due to severe shoulder injury? It just hasn't happened with all those circumstances in place.

Then to top that Vitali loses in an even more suspect way. He was roughing Lennox up & giving him a clinic up until that cut started to take effect & still fought him 50/50... punch for punch for the last half of the bout with horrific cuts.. losing blood depleting his strength. EVERY other fighter who's lost in the manner Vitali has.... i guarantee you has been outboxed before & lost in a normal fashion being beaten & outboxed.



If it seems that i'm isolating his two defeats from others who have suffered similar fates.... then i plead 100% guilty. Vitali's two cases (defeats) deserve special attention because HE'S THE ONLY ONE IN BOXING HISTORY THAT HAS HAD THESE TYPE OF DEFEATS HAPPEN TO HIM BE THE ONLY KNOWN WAY TO DFEAT HIM.. SO WHAT THIS SUGGESTS IS NO INJURIES.. NO DEFEATS... THE CONCEPT IS 100% COMMON SENSE BECAUSE OF HIS BOXING HISTORY IN 43 OTHER BOUTS WHERE HE FINISHED THE BOUT WITHOUT ANY HEALTHCOMPLICATIONS THAT PREMATURELY STOPPED HIM FROM CONTINUING TO WIN THOSE BOUTS.....



I CAN'T MAKE IT ANY CLEARER THAN THAT... he was winning those bouts in pretty much the same fashion he has all his fights.. so do I side with his history or do i side with TKO6 OR TKO9.. logic tells me this is a fighter who has won 95 % of all the rds he's ever fought on all scorecards by officials scoring his bouts.... why can't you haters understand that he was fighting with a handicap in both losses for most of those bouts & STILL winning those bouts..


IF I WERE his opposition that got those gift w's.. I'D BE SCARED \shetlesss of what he's capable of doing to me without the need for medical intervention.. Don't think this thought hasn't crossed Byrd'S & LEWI'S minds because they'd be lying to you if they came out of those arenas those nights... looking in there mirrors before going to sleep & stating to themselves.. did I just beat the GREAT VK...... nah.. there had to be something physically wrong with him for that to have happened.

[jimmy1569]

Btw... just so you haters know... if one of the following ever happens to Vitali KlITSCHKO in a fight........tastes canvas.. gets outhtrown or outlanded.. outboxed.. outjabbed.. outslugged. is losing on the scorecards after the first rd... loses by injury while behind on the scorecards. loses more than 2 rds in a bout.. no matter the duration..... he will have lost all invincibility in my eyes..... JUST one of those things has to occur in a VITALI KLITSCHKO BOUT for me to lose all faith in him... let's see if Chisora is up for the challenge.

So far he has emphatically stated that he's going to do two things on this list that has never occured in a Vitali Klitschko bout & that is knock him out in a conventional manner (injuries not involved) & OUTWORK HIM.. pretty much stating his gameplan is to outthrow & outland Vitali... let's see what happens & why does Derek think that he's so special when 45 others tried & failed miserably.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

That's a pathetic response & shows your lack of class or lack of empathy when someone quits because of a medical problem.. He quit because of his shoulder & not what Byrd was doing to him in the ring. He was fighting himself at that point.. Byrd was a pest towards the end as Vitali was trying to deal with intense & severe pain plus trying to keep Byrd off of him as he was targeting the shoulder without even knowing it. I'd like to see how all YOU haters & keyboard warriors deal with the same EXACT injury & see your threshold for pain... talk about Ali FIGHTING WITH A broken jaw all you phocking want ( did Vitali NOT fight on with a broken face.. much worse than a broken jaw?) SO tHE fact that other fighters examples of bravery & courage.. means that Vitali doesn't have the same threshold for pain?.. talk about Danny Williams fighting on with the SUPPOSED same condition Did it ever occur to you morons that his rotator cuff condition is different than someone else's with same said condition? ONLY THE PERSON SUFFERING FROM THIS PAIN KNOWS HOW IT FEELS... FOR ALL HATERS TO SIT ON THERE SOFAS & STATE VITALI SHOULD'VE WINGED IT FOR 3 RDS... WHY DIDN'T YOU TAKE SAME SAID STANCE WHEN HE WASN'T ALLOWED TO WING IT IN THE LEWIS BOUT? AFTERALL... WHAT'S WORSE A BROKEN FACE OR A BROKEN SHOULDER?

THE FACT THAT HE BOWED DOWN WHEN HE WAS WINNING SHOULD SHOW EVERYONE THAT IT WAS SEVERE ENOUGH TO GIVE UP EVERYTING HE FOUGHT FOR IN THE FIGHT.. vITALI KLITSCHKO QUIT WHEN HE WAS ****ING WINNING... HE DIDN'T BOW OUT LIKE A COWARD WHEN HE WAS LOSING.. HE WAS WINNING.. SO IT WAS HIS CALL AS TO WHETHER HE WANTED THE W.. BAD ENOUGH TO IGNORE THE PAIN.. 9 MORE MINUTES WAS DEEMED TOO MUCH FOR HIM TO FATHOM.... RESPECT THIS & KEEP IT MOVING MORON & STOP CALLING VITALI A BEETCH WHEN HE WAS WORRIED ABOUT HIS PHYSICAL HEALTH & WHAT IT MIGHT DO TO HIS CAREER.

Ok I didn't read any of that.

Could you cut to the part where he quit against a Super Middleweight?

[JAB5239]

I have answered the question. Vitali's punches had more long term effect while Lennox's left a scar that has been fully healed for 8 yrs now. I'm all about the end game. Vitali's punches left more OF an impression on Lennox. Your answer is as plain as black & white. One fighter was willing to get a second helping of those punches he received while one refused a second sampling BECAUSE HE HAD seen enough.... kapish or are you still going to tell me my answer for me... son?

Jimmy, why do you continue to lie? If you were all about the "end game" you would admit it was Lewis' punches that brought the "end game" about. Vitaly had NO choice in the matter. Lewis than CHOSE to retire. He didn't have to, he just felt he had nothing left to prove. So the "end game" is it was the punches Lennox threw that were more effective because they brought about the end of the fight. END GAME.

[Jedi Vader]

Jimmy, why do you continue to lie? If you were all about the "end game" you would admit it was Lewis' punches that brought the "end game" about. Vitaly had NO choice in the matter. Lewis than CHOSE to retire. He didn't have to, he just felt he had nothing left to prove. So the "end game" is it was the punches Lennox threw that were more effective because they brought about the end of the fight. END GAME.

Maybe it's just that Jimmy lacks in basic English Comprehension?

[Mr. Invincible]

Damn, Miss Invisible is getting destroyed in here

I kinda feel like I've been holding objectivity lessons. Can't for the life of me figure out how one would think I've been getting destroyed in here even a little bit. Keep dreaming.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

I kinda feel like I've been holding objectivity lessons. Can't for the life of me figure out how one would think I've been getting destroyed in here even a little bit. Keep dreaming.

If this was a fight, your face would look like Vitali's at the end of the Lewis loss.

[TRAV1$]

Vitali didn't lose the fight, he just got hit in the face until he was no longer in a state to continue.

[paul750]

Lennox had been fighting since 1989 and had achieved everything he had wanted to achieve. He was already fighting at an age when a lot of fighters retire anyway. It was hardly as if Klitschko fought him when he was in his late 20s or early 30s. Beating Klitschko again wouldn't have improved his legacy - it was only an exciting fight, not a particularly important one at the time. Klitschko simply came onto the scene a little bit too late. Knowing what we now know about Klitschko, he was a much better boxer than most of Lennox's opponents.

It is not Lennox's fault that Klitschko can't fight a decent opponent. Lewis had his run and already had one eye on retirement anyway, as he was wanting to have a family and his wife/girlfriend and mum had a role in him calling it a day. Klitschko didn't exactly run him off, that is a silly thing to say.

[jimmy1569]

Ok I didn't read any of that.

Could you cut to the part where he quit against a Super Middleweight?

Yu got jokes... son..... your loss & everyone else's that didn't read it.