What do you think of Deontay Wilder?

[Danny Gunz]

After 21 fights, Wilder needs to start fighting decent journeymen like Guinn, Walker, Rossy, Barrett, Grant, Pajkic, Firtha, Gavern, etc.

Deontay's not yet fought anyone even on the level of Vinny Maddalone.

Former 5'9" middleweight Marlon Hayes, age 40, who was knocked out by Kingsley Ikeke back in 2002, came out of retirement to fight Deontay.

I hear they are trying to get Golden Johnson, who retired around the same time as Marlon Hayes, to be the 6'7" Wilder's next opponent.

Whats the rush dude?

He had a late start in boxing, and very little amateur career. They are moving him along slowly because he is young and still getting better.

He is being groomed to be the Heavyweight Champion of the world, we know someday he will step up and fight the top of the HW division, its just not gonna be for a little while long. Just relax and enjoy his career.

[SCtrojansbaby]

I am worried about him he needs to get together with a guy like Ariza who will make him stronger

[bergin]

To the ****ing morons that say the HW division is actually NOT WEAK. Chris Arreloa and ****ing derek chisora fought for titles ok. Chris arreoloa I think actually won some belts. I honesty think Lennox Lewis can come back now at age 45 or something and beat both Chisora and Arreloa. If there was a prime Lennox in Today's Division he will literally steamroll everyone within 1-2 rounds up to the Klithsckos. Dead serious. Even the cautious lion would have just killed everyone not name Vitali or Wladimir in today's HW division in 1-2 rounds. He will try to fight safe and defensive but guys will still fall to his range finding jabs anyways and just get koed.

[cupocity303]

Whatever he does, he needs to start emulating the Klitschko's and get the maximum effectiveness out of his height.

The smaller fighters used to emulate Roy Jones and now Mayweather with the shoulder roll (most recent being Broner with bunch others) as a recipe to success.

Well the 6'7 guys need to look at Klitschko tall man style of fighting. Too much wasted movement from Wilder trying to be flashy like a Smaller fighter. You don't expect Shaq to play basketball like Kobe, why expect big men to move around and waste energy like a Light-heavy or small Heavyweight.

[New England]

After 21 fights, Wilder needs to start fighting decent journeymen like Guinn, Walker, Rossy, Barrett, Grant, Pajkic, Firtha, Gavern, etc.

Deontay's not yet fought anyone even on the level of Vinny Maddalone.

Former 5'9" middleweight Marlon Hayes, age 40, who was knocked out by Kingsley Ikeke back in 2002, came out of retirement to fight Deontay.

I hear they are trying to get Golden Johnson, who retired around the same time as Marlon Hayes, to be the 6'7" Wilder's next opponent.

Golden Johnson?!

you cannot be serious!

[New England]

The bottom line, which you won't actually come out and say, is that you want to see Wilder lose.

So the sooner he takes tougher fights, the more likely he will get beat. So that's what you are going to demand from him.

Bottom line is that anyone who watches the kid can see he has great potential but is still very raw. The number of fights he has is irrelevant because there have been very few rounds between them. He takes fights like these for the sole reason that he needs every round he can get. Furthermore, it's not like Wilder is the only Heavyweight prospect who refuses to step up.

I agree the competition needs to be better than Marlon Hayes, but it doesn;t need to be someone like Pajkic either at this point.

I also think that if I were his manager or his advisor and being paid to run his career in the way that I best saw fit I would have him take about 10 more fights like this over the next year and a half before he really steps up.

People **** on Chavez Jr. for fighting 37 bums or whatever before he stepped up. Bottom line, it worked for him. He woulda stepped up 10 fights ago he would have gotten killed.

People **** on Ward and his team for not getting him enough fights and saying they were bringing him along too slow. Now he is one of the p4p top fighters in the game.

There is no right or wrong way to bring a fighter along. You have to be able to look at what his best for him and be confident of that plan regardless of the outside pressure.

Ultimately Wilder's team will continue to take their time. You will continue to rip him for it as well plenty others. He will step up when he is ready and then we will find out what he is made of. This nonsense of measuring fighters by the number of fights means nothing to the people who are responsible for his career.

at this stage he's likely getting in his best work in sparring and in the gym

not the fights

the fights get him paid a bit too (probably a couple grand at least,) and the kid does have a family to feed



when we look at prospects we usually notice the talent and the level of skill that jumps out at us contrasted against the skills of his opponents

with wilder we see the talent, but it's pretty damn apparent that the guy has no idea how to box yet.


most of your favorite top flight pros have been fighting since they were literally kids.


if you put wilder in with a top flight boxer who can take him rounds he will probably lose.

who knows what this kid will look like in the tenth with a guy who knows how to box?
i'd guess that he'd be stopped


if you let him learn he can at least become a factor in the division. not saying he can go all the way (looking at his development i tend to doubt it,) but at least he can learn and give something to the sport, as opposed to getting knocked out by a journeyman and having his career ruined.



i have personally seen guinn knock out a 18-0 fighter in less than a round. something has to be said for experience. somethign to think about

[Hallaqsillaq]

That's disgraceful. Sometimes I love this sport, and sometimes I hate it.

[The Hammer]

Wilder is remaining active, looks like he'll fight on Jan 19.

http://boxingnews.com.ua/ru/novosti/...he-19-janvarja

[Cyberspace]

He needs work and experiance. It seems heavyweights to reach the top level need to be able to box and jab for the full twelve rounds. Never mind that he can punch, it takes more to compete at the top.

[tezel8764]

But how much can you really prepare for a title shot? The Heavyweight landscape is inconsistent nowadays, the disparity between US level and the Klitschko's is a great one. Wilder will either get exposed by facing a top 10 fighter or just stay fighting stiffs like the majority of the other US Hopefuls; Mayfield, Scott, Mitchell who are close to/in their 30's but haven't fought any world beaters.

If he really is serious about this he needs to take on fighters who will challenge him in various ways. He should mixing it up with Price or Fury or Povetkin, Arreola, Jennings if he really is serious because nothing he has done at the moment has proved he will be champion soon.

IMO, I think he is waiting for the Klitschko's to retire then he will make his move like many others are waiting to do also.

The fact that most of these American Heavyweights have not fought eachother with protected undefeated records against crap opposition should give an indicator about the poor American heavyweight scene nowadays.