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  • IMDAZED
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    #41
    Originally posted by COACH WEBB
    Good point. Peterson did very good work there...Amir just pushed off.
    Khan still fights like an amateur. What are they doing in the gym? Besides drinking protein shakes? I'm beginning to think the only improvement fighters make at the Wild Card is in their physique/conditioning/strength.

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    • Lostlinka
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      #42
      Hyped for this fight, all the poor tactics after the fight make this much more interesting. Peterson did surprise me with just how good he was, I hadn't heard much about the guy at all before the fight. Khan was Khan-quick and ineffective. I bash the guy quite alot and wish I could give him some credit but none of his fights impress me and his ego makes it all the worse.

      The three fights that have defined Khans career so far are Prescott, Maidana and Peterson. Ok, so Prescott can be looked at as just one of those fights, where he got sparked and that's that. Although the manner he was battered raised alot of questions. Maidana, he showed his speed to it's fullest but was hanging on for dear life in the last 2 rounds, 1 round longer and he would have been out for the count. Finally, Peterson, it was a close fight no question but he was out-muscled and out-manoevered.

      I don't really see him getting by on this kind of two steps forward, one step back career progression. He's destined for something, but I think it's more likely a sore ego than greatness status. I don't like seeing fighters behave like Khan has done, especially British fighters.

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      • COACH WEBB
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        #43
        Originally posted by IMDAZED
        Khan still fights like an amateur. What are they doing in the gym? Besides drinking protein shakes? I'm beginning to think the only improvement fighters make at the Wild Card is in their physique/conditioning/strength.
        Yea, he sure does. And I agree with the rest of your post as well. With Khan's height, size, speed, and reach, he should really be a problem for his opponents. I'm picking Peterson to win the rematch, but IMO Khan REALLY needs to win this fight for the sake of his young career.

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        • Twako
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          #44
          i like lamont better than khan. but khan won in a close fight because of the deductions. w/o it, it would be a very clear win for khan.

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          • shade darkar
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            #45
            Originally posted by Check
            isn't as good as his talent would lead you to believe? People had an excuse when he lost to Prescott. Whether it was weight, or a lucky punch people had that little excuse hanging from their back pocket. If he goes out and gets out gritted again there is no excuse. He was out grinded by Maidana but due to Marcos's limitations he was able to secure the victory but with Lamont he really couldn't get away with it and another loss to Lamont would really drive the nail in the coffin that Khan was a hypejob.

            Thinking about it, it would show that Roach did nothing for Khan too. Yeah, his talent was grossly overrated by his countrymen but Roach never improved Khan. Khan still shows poor footwork and still has truly learn the art of punching(throwing fast combos isn't mastering punching). Roach is a poor coach strictly on he tried to make Khan something he isn't, Manny Pacquaio. A good coach adapts to the talent he is given and gets the most out of that talent.

            All in all another loss to Lamont shows that Khan is just another guy. He isn't Manny, he isn't Floyd, hell he isn't even an aging Sergio Martinez. Just another decent fighter that isn't head and shoulders above the other top fighters in his division.
            roach has done a great job with khan regardless of a win or loss against peterson again.

            lets have it right, peterson vs khan was a close fight. its not like khan was dominated. styles make fights and khan is nowhere near the finished article.

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            • -Kev-
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              #46
              Khan is a good fighter, if Lamont beats him, it just makes Lamont the better fighter. It doesn't make Khan a bad fighter. If Khan wins, does that make Peterson a bad fighter? No it doesn't. Both are just a couple of good fighters going at it, I think it's obvious neither of them are great.

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              • -Kev-
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                #47
                Originally posted by Twako
                i like lamont better than khan. but khan won in a close fight because of the deductions. w/o it, it would be a very clear win for khan.
                That's the tricky part. Khan was also credited with false knock downs, so you take out everything, the kd's, point deductions...you have the same result, a close fight.

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                • Rome-By-Ko
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by -Kev-
                  That's the tricky part. Khan was also credited with false knock downs, so you take out everything, the kd's, point deductions...you have the same result, a close fight.
                  I agree,it was a close fight no matter how ya slice it..The question is who can make the best improvements going forward to win the rematch??

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                  • RichardP
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                    #49
                    If khan looses, it will be a major setback. He knows it and GBP knows it.

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                    • PAC-BOY
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                      #50
                      [QUOTE=Check;11773908]
                      isn't as good as his talent would lead you to believe
                      i dont understand this. If hes got talent...hes got talent and hes as good as he is. If hes no good than he has no talent. because hes no good at what he does.
                      IMO
                      Also....If he does loses to the same guy twice...its not over for him. That guy may just have his number and stylistically they dont work in his favor. Dont make him a bad fighter. We can say that when he loses to different fighters back to back and so on.

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