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  • Reloaded
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    #121
    Originally posted by Big Dunn
    In 09 Mosley was the RING and LINEAL champ and the consensus #1 ww in the world, even though he lost to Cotto. Is Torrecampo the best WW in the world right now because he beat Manny? Of course not so lets be real here.
    But its a mute point by Pacboy anyway because Cotto was beaten up badly by loaded gloves and then was drained at a CW to fight Manny , so Pac didnt beat the real Cotto anyway just the name , thats the thing with Manny I dont see how people can big note a win when the opponent is handicapped , and Manny has handicapped quite a few , his biggest wins were all badly handicapped , wtf is that !

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    • SpeedKillz
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      #122
      Originally posted by turbotime
      They were both pretty bad. What's even more funny is the *******s making excuses for him
      Not as funny as people STILL thinking that pac can beat floyd. I mean come on already, I get supporting your guy to no end, but twisting **** til it cant get twisted anymore is a little bit overboard just to prove a point. I'm pretty sure they dont even believe it anymore though, they just dont wanna give the satisfaction to the so called "*****s"

      Some people just refuse to accept reality, kinda like the TS, oh well, what can ya do except sit back and laugh...

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        #123
        Originally posted by PAC-BOY
        in 09 Mosley was the WBA SWW champ...Cotto was the Wbo. Regardless of what trinket belt who had...Cotto had already beat Mosley so he took Cotto first. And for a title.
        Don't sell it like Cotto won the WBO belt off Mosely.

        Yes, Cotto beat Mosely for the WBA belt, then Gomez, then had his head practically caved in by Margarito. Mosely won the WBA belt off Marg so Mosely at the time was THE MAN and Manny wanted no part of him.

        Didnt Cotto get the WBO strap from beating the formidable Michael Jennings?

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          #124
          Originally posted by Reloaded
          But its a mute point by Pacboy anyway because Cotto was beaten up badly by loaded gloves and then was drained at a CW to fight Manny , so Pac didnt beat the real Cotto anyway just the name , thats the thing with Manny I dont see how people can big note a win when the opponent is handicapped , and Manny has handicapped quite a few , his biggest wins were all badly handicapped , wtf is that !
          The Cotto win is slightly less to me because the 145 CW. I prefer a champ be able to defend at full weight limit of division.

          Manny's fans put it all on floyd fans when their beef is with Roach. Roach said SHane was too good, not me.

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          • cixthree
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            #125
            Originally posted by PAC-BOY
            David Diaz: Won 9 straight until Manny moved up a division and Ko'd him in 9rounds.
            DLH:[moving up two weight classes] After losing a very close Split Decision to Floyd he fought Forbes winning a UD weighing 150lbs before fighting Manny @ 147lbs !! DLH officially weighed 145 @ weigh-in! Manny made him quit on the stool because He was to much for him. DLH admits this after the fight!
            Ricky Hatton:Had two wins over Lazcano and Malignaggi after his first loss to Mayweather TKOing him in 10rds. Hatton fought Pacquiao at his weight and Manny KOd him in 2rds!
            Miguel Cotto: After suffering his first loss to Margarito he fought twice...Jennings,scoring a tko in 5rds and a very close SD win with Clottey! [some had Clottey winner] Cotto was asked to give up 2lbs @145. being Cotto has weighed 145-147 for last three years before this fight! Cotto was beat up for 12rds and tko'd in 12th.[Cotto went onto win 3 straight]
            Clottey: Manny fought Clottey after Clottey had a very close lost to Cotto. Simply because the hype was Cotto lost to Clottey or it could have went both ways! Clottey was not beaten or hurt by Cotto so the very close decison loss to Cotto didnt bother him at all. Pacquiao fought Clottey @ 147 after finding out he was comfortable at this weight. 12rd shutout Clottey didnt have a chance!
            Mosley: Shane had a fight after his lost to Decision lost to Floyd. He got a 12 draw with Mora @ 154. Manny won a UD and knocked Shane down during the fight. [Mosley asked corner to stop the fight]
            Margarito: After an 18mth layoff Margarito came back and won first fight against Garcia. A shake the ring rust off fight. Manny took Margarito on even though the weight reach and size advantage wasnt in his favor. Marg was beaten badly! Marag looked like a fighter who was out classed not one that was rusty or shot. He fought to the end!
            JMM won 3 straight after his last loss. Yet again comes up short with another loss to Pacquiao. Manny out threw ,out landed,and threw more and landed more power punches as stated by the punch stats in compubox! (done especially for KEV) hehe
            Bradley:
            Is it just me or do you see a pattern here, all of the guys he named were comming off losses or weight stipulated to death.
            I think ur answers are in ur question.

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              #126
              Originally posted by Big Dunn
              In 09 Mosley was the RING and LINEAL champ and the consensus #1 ww in the world, even though he lost to Cotto. Is Torrecampo the best WW in the world right now because he beat Manny? Of course not so lets be real here.
              i dont see how if he lost the WBA WW title to Cotto. NEXT fought Mayorga for the vacant WBA Inter-Continental light middleweight title...fights Margarito for his WBA Super World welterweight title...when did he fight for another championship after that? If im wrong correct me. because i cant find any data on Shane being anything @WW after Cotto beat him.

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                #127
                Originally posted by cixthree
                Is it just me or do you see a pattern here, all of the guys he named were comming off losses or weight stipulated to death.
                I think ur answers are in ur question.
                its just you. Only one fight came off loss to fight Manny and that was Clottey. which most thought he beat Cotto in that fight. So yeah its just you!

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                  #128
                  Originally posted by Reloaded
                  But its a mute point by Pacboy anyway because Cotto was beaten up badly by loaded gloves and then was drained at a CW to fight Manny , so Pac didnt beat the real Cotto anyway just the name , thats the thing with Manny I dont see how people can big note a win when the opponent is handicapped , and Manny has handicapped quite a few , his biggest wins were all badly handicapped , wtf is that !
                  yeah it was the fake Cotto:AfD:

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                  • The Big Dunn
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                    #129
                    Originally posted by PAC-BOY
                    i dont see how if he lost the WBA WW title to Cotto. NEXT fought Mayorga for the vacant WBA Inter-Continental light middleweight title...fights Margarito for his WBA Super World welterweight title...when did he fight for another championship after that? If im wrong correct me. because i cant find any data on Shane being anything @WW after Cotto beat him.
                    Marg and Shane was for the ww title. Marg fought 3 time at SWW (154) loss to daniel santos, beat a bum, lost to manny (CW 150).

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                      #130
                      Originally posted by SpeedKillz
                      Not as funny as people STILL thinking that pac can beat floyd. I mean come on already, I get supporting your guy to no end, but twisting **** til it cant get twisted anymore is a little bit overboard just to prove a point. I'm pretty sure they dont even believe it anymore though, they just dont wanna give the satisfaction to the so called "*****s"

                      Some people just refuse to accept reality, kinda like the TS, oh well, what can ya do except sit back and laugh...
                      hehe thats all i do when people think Floyd is better than Pac....I sit back and laugh. The only reason you feel things are twisted is because its not your belief. I know when things become nonfactual and statements like these is all people can bring to the table.

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