Do you seriously think Donaire is beatable at 122 lbs?

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  • Russian Crushin
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    #11
    Originally posted by Phantomas
    No?, he is a better combination puncher, a better body puncher, has faster hooks, better jabber, probably tougher and already is a proven bantam champion. Even Agbeko can beat Donaire.
    You forgot bigger, stronger, he's mexican, has a bigger ****, no receding hairline, normal ears, no buckteeth, etc

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    • McFearless
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      #12
      Originally posted by intoccabile
      I feel like people are on the band wagon far too hard.

      There was nothing in control about the Vazquez fight. he took some BIG shots, too many, DANGEROUS big shots. That is never "in control". Stop listening to the commentators, watch Donairs mannerisms, listen to his corner. You all had the fight wide.. Garcia pleaded with Donaire in the last 2 rounds saying "we NEED these rounds". And although I disagree that he "needed" them.. I actually had teh fight a lot closer than a lot of you. Donaire showed urgency, several times. A guy "in control" doesn't need to do that.

      This was not a 1 sided affair at all (at least not in the way people think) people just seem to like judging blocked punches and give no credit to a healthy jab. He got caught flush with some MEAN right hands as well and a lot of times while trying to slip them, so I don't want to hear "oh, he let him"... really?
      I agree, the commentators were talking him up BIG time. early on i remember they were talking like Vazquez was completely out of there, but i thought he was being defensively responsible and doing reasonably well with the jab.
      I think Donaire relies so much on his power at time that he often forgets smaller details like boxing and defense. He was trying too hard to get the KO. You dont "let" someone hit you to the point where your eye gets marked up and swollen that badly just because.

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      • Doctor_Tenma
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        #13
        Originally posted by Phantomas
        No?, he is a better combination puncher, a better body puncher, has faster hooks, better jabber, probably tougher and already is a proven bantam champion. Even Agbeko can beat Donaire.
        He gets hit too much and is wild at times, he'll give Donaire plenty of opportunities.

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        • betmen
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          #14
          Originally posted by puga
          nishioka is the only guy at 22 i give a chance of beating him...

          i dont belive that guy who kisses the canvass becuase of a jab can beat a p4p fighter at all...
          Manny kisses the canvas because of jab.

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          • Russian Crushin
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            #15
            Originally posted by McFearless
            I agree, the commentators were talking him up BIG time. early on i remember they were talking like Vazquez was completely out of there, but i thought he was being defensively responsible and doing reasonably well with the jab.
            I think Donaire relies so much on his power at time that he often forgets smaller details like boxing and defense. He was trying too hard to get the KO. You dont "let" someone hit you to the point where your eye gets marked up and swollen that badly just because.
            Jabbing and defense wont win you fights just saying, otherwise Narvaez would of had a shut out against Donaire

            Plus Donaires face was marked up after 3 rounds when WV2 only landed like 3 power punches.

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            • Filo
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              #16
              Originally posted by intoccabile
              I feel like people are on the band wagon far too hard.

              There was nothing in control about the Vazquez fight. he took some BIG shots, too many, DANGEROUS big shots. That is never "in control". Stop listening to the commentators, watch Donairs mannerisms, listen to his corner. You all had the fight wide.. Garcia pleaded with Donaire in the last 2 rounds saying "we NEED these rounds". And although I disagree that he "needed" them.. I actually had teh fight a lot closer than a lot of you. Donaire showed urgency, several times. A guy "in control" doesn't need to do that.

              This was not a 1 sided affair at all (at least not in the way people think) people just seem to like judging blocked punches and give no credit to a healthy jab. He got caught flush with some MEAN right hands as well and a lot of times while trying to slip them, so I don't want to hear "oh, he let him"... really?
              You're suppose to take a shot, it's a FIGHT.You fight! you get hit...Wish we can all be like Floyd or Whitaker but we're not...Then if that's the case you have to be prepared to show pnd for pnd heart and chins in the contest because you will get hit in a boxing match unless you run or can shoulder scroll.

              Last edited by Filo; 02-06-2012, 10:52 PM.

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              • vacon04
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                #17
                Yes, I think Nishioka is the biggest threat to Donaire right now, but Rigondeaux can also give him problems at 122. I think Moreno beats him also, but Moreno is still fighting at 118 and IDK how he would do at 122, but if he's as good at 122 as he is at 118 he has a pretty good chance of beating Nonito, I would even consider him favorite.

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                • RA-Box
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by savorduhflavor
                  Not really. Rigo and Moreno can ugly it up and maybe nip him but Donaire's the goods.

                  That was a solid performance...it was better than Martinez against Barker and I didn't see Martinez get this backlash.
                  It wasn't better than Martinez's performance. Martinez KO'd the opponent in front of him.

                  Rigondeaux would get the job done.

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                  • MaD RoBoT
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                    #19
                    these Rigo fanatics are all over the place

                    how about Rigo against Nishioka? why not beg for that fight, Donaire's not ONLY the cream of the crop of the division

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                    • BABYBOXER
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                      #20
                      if nonito will be fighting an opponent whom you think who can beat him at 122, please pm me for a bet...

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