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  • #71
    Originally posted by Burat Mo View Post
    Pac is still #1 and Floyd is #2 what ever is the result of this fight. Anybody who believes in Floyd jr or sr is an idiot
    you are a idiot for thinking just the opposite

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    • #72
      Originally posted by joseph5620 View Post
      Margarito and Mosley were both done when Pacquaio fought them. So to claim they were more dangerous at that point is just silly. And who the hell has Clottey ever beaten that makes him so superior to Ortiz?
      Clottey got robbed against Cotto, whooped Judah and Margarito before he injured his hand. 3 guys who would beat Vic! And yes, Margarito at this stage would still beat Vic.

      Cotto threw everything at him his last fight and couldnt drop him or take him out. Had Cotto fought Vic the way he did against Margarito, Vic would have either quit or went to sleep. Margarito at this stage with his heart and pressure would still make Ortiz quit.

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      • #73
        50/50 and the fight could have gone thru , wifebeater will never man up and fight manny

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        • #74
          Originally posted by MTN View Post
          As of right NOW... Who is better then Bradley that is available at 47/40? When May fought Hatton at 47, Cotto/Margarito/Mosley were still out there.
          Any top 10 welterweight outside of Mayweather is "available" But that's not even the point. Since you live by rankings what is Bradley ranked at 147? The only thing you come up with for Ortiz is that he was "not top 5" at 140 which irrelevant when he was ranked number three at 147.


          You can't have it both ways and use rankings when it's convenient for you.

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          • #75
            Originally posted by joseph5620 View Post
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            For you to throw Mosley in there as if Mayweather didn't beat him first(and when he was actually highly ranked) is just ****** and clearly shows you have an agenda.
            An agenda? Im a Mayweather fan and believe Mayweather beats Pacquiao. How can I have an agenda? Im speaking from an unbiased stance.

            When Pacquiao fought Mosley he was still top 5 at WW. Yes, he was ranked higher when he fought Floyd but May didn't beat him first anyhow. Mosley had 5 losses prior and looked like crap against Mayorga. So did Floyd fight Winky/Forrest/Cotto's leftovers?

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            • #76
              Originally posted by MTN View Post
              Clottey got robbed against Cotto, whooped Judah and Margarito before he injured his hand. 3 guys who would beat Vic! And yes, Margarito at this stage would still beat Vic.

              Cotto threw everything at him his last fight and couldnt drop him or take him out. Had Cotto fought Vic the way he did against Margarito, Vic would have either quit or went to sleep. Margarito at this stage with his heart and pressure would still make Ortiz quit.
              Clottey lost to Cotto. Clottey was not "whooping" Margarito so stop lying. Funny how Judah becomes a great win for Clottey when Judah had been beaten how many times before?


              And Margarito is finished as a top fighter. Who has he actually beaten since he beat Cotto? You can dream and pretend that it's still 2008.

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              • #77
                Originally posted by MTN View Post
                An agenda? Im a Mayweather fan and believe Mayweather beats Pacquiao. How can I have an agenda? Im speaking from an unbiased stance.

                When Pacquiao fought Mosley he was still top 5 at WW. Yes, he was ranked higher when he fought Floyd but May didn't beat him first anyhow. Mosley had 5 losses prior and looked like crap against Mayorga. So did Floyd fight Winky/Forrest/Cotto's leftovers?
                He beat him before Pacquaio did which was my point since you used his name as if Pacquiao fought him and Mayweather didn't. Mosley was dominated by Mayweather and looked bad aginst Sergio Mora prior to when Pacquaio finally decided to fight him. So stop pretending that Mosley had any momentum going into the Pacquiao fight because he didn't.


                And who said anything about "leftovers?" Stay on topic.

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                • #78
                  Originally posted by joseph5620 View Post
                  Any top 10 welterweight outside of Mayweather is "available" But that's not even the point. Since you live by rankings what is Bradley ranked at 147? The only thing you come up with for Ortiz is that he was "not top 5" at 140 which irrelevant when he was ranked number three at 147.


                  You can't have it both ways and use rankings when it's convenient for you.
                  What are you talking about!? When May fought Ortiz were there any better guys out there? Yes. When he fought Hatton, were there better guys out there? Yes. When he fought JMM, were there better guys? Yes. My problem isnt Floyd fighting these guys. The issue is the timing that he is fighting them at.

                  As of right NOW... Who is better for Pac then Bradley? May fights guys at certain times. Why wasnt he so eager to fight Pac in 2010 after he ripped apart Cotto? Now that he looked like crap against Marquez he's calling him out like crazy!

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                  • #79
                    Originally posted by MTN View Post
                    What are you talking about!? When May fought Ortiz were there any better guys out there? Yes. When he fought Hatton, were there better guys out there? Yes. When he fought JMM, were there better guys? Yes. My problem isnt Floyd fighting these guys. The issue is the timing that he is fighting them at.
                    As of right NOW... Who is better for Pac then Bradley? May fights guys at certain times. Why wasnt he so eager to fight Pac in 2010 after he ripped apart Cotto? Now that he looked like crap against Marquez he's calling him out like crazy!
                    Who was a better choice at 147? I would love see this.


                    Funny how you have such an issue with "timing" for Mayweather but you don't have one with Pacquiao fighting Mosley or JMM at 147. Yes, you have an agenda.



                    And Mayweather was ready fight Pacquiao years before the JMM fight with Pacquaio so don't try to spin that lie.
                    Last edited by joseph5620; 02-04-2012, 01:48 PM.

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                    • #80
                      Originally posted by joseph5620 View Post
                      Clottey lost to Cotto. Clottey was not "whooping" Margarito so stop lying. Funny how Judah becomes a great win for Clottey when Judah had been beaten how many times before?


                      And Margarito is finished as a top fighter. Who has he actually beaten since he beat Cotto? You can dream and pretend that it's still 2008.
                      On recod Clottey lost to Cotto but dont act like Cotto clearly won. The fight could have gone either way. And yes Clottey was beating Margarito prior to hurting his hand in that fight. So Judah isnt a great win for Clottey but Mosley is for May? Mosley has 5 losses and questionable victory against OLDH but hes a great victory? And no, Im not saying Mosley is a great win for Pac either.

                      Margarito is finished as a top fighter but he would still make Vic take a knee!

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