Comments Thread For: Team Cotto: Weight Was Breaking Point in Pacquiao Talks

[joseph5620]

Ok I was a bit emotional and May's entire resume isn't exactly ****ty but at least Cotto's recent resume is ****ty for a reason. Have you ever boxed? It's 75% mental. When you get a beat down after winning such amazing fights and being undefeated, the way Cotto got beat down in Margacheato 1, that messes you up. Besides losing his trainer and uncle, Cotto lose his passion for boxing after that fight. He's stated publicly his heart was not in boxing for years after the cheato fight. Anyway, that totally showed in the ring. He lacked the same confidence, lost his balance, killer instinct, etc. So what I do praise Bob for is that he slowly built Cotto up and when he lost he slowly built him BACK up. Foreman was a green guy without a KO punch but he was expected to outbox Cotto by many and had outweighed Cotto by quite a few pounds. He, like May, is also no pitty pat puncher like his resume may lead one to believe. But his power wasn't enough. May has the advantage of being a great boxer so he might win, but Cotto is a small JMW and has taken good shots. Mayorga, while a bum, was a build up for Margarito and a very heavy, aggressive, powerful puncher. Then, he fights the man who started all his woes and gets a TKO. He would have gotten a UD if not for the eye but in that win Cotto showed why he was always the better man. To me Mayweather has no reason for avoiding big risk fights the past many years. I mean, Cotto beat Shane years before May did and if Cotto would have taken a year off to come back and fight Marquez he would have 1) Been disowned and bashed worst than May and 2) He would have KO'd the guy, Cotto's too powerful for Marquez.

Everyone May and Cotto have both fought, Cotto TKO's except for I think Shane or one other fighter, while May goes to a decision. I remember SO MANY people saying Cotto had no chance vs Cheato 2, orbital damage, no plaster or not. They knew Margs wasn't a great fighter but a force to be reckoned with no less, a man who never stops, and they thought Cotto couldn't take the pressure, wouldn't adjust. But he beat him convincingly and proved many wrong. But now Margs was never a tough guy to beat. Whatever. Floyd avoided Margs and was actually smart, the ****sucker was cheating.

I don't hate Cotto at all. I just think you're overrating his wins here. And I picked him to beat Margarito in the rematch.

[joseph5620]

Umm, he tried to KO Pac and got rocked, did you not see it? I never said he was winning big either. You are so funny. You hate on Cotto for "running" so PLEASE tell me you do not praise others, like maybe fellow mexicans who "box." Watch the tapes back to back and tell me it ain't the same **** with Marquez "running" from Pacman rounds 10 - 12 in their last fight, right? C'mon you're not a crying sore-loser baby right? He lost that fight. Nobody told him to "run" during the championship rounds. And you also agree that ODLH ran from Tito the last IDK, 5 rounds of their fight by that logic right?

Of course Delahoya ran against Trinidad. Running is running and I don't care who's doing it. I have no agenda with this topic.

[Stl_Buay]

As far as Margarito Im not going to disagree because I always felt pacman did take some punishment even though he won every round it wasnt easy. But if everything you say is true about him saying 150 and above its to much why even entertain any fights at the weight. If its not fair for him to move up it should be the same for his opponent as well. Its not right to make Cotto come down to 147. If Manny not a full welter then fight jr welters, you can't have it both ways, either fight at the limits or don't take it at all. As far as Floyd your way off. Floyd has never come in the ring at 150 or over, not even against Oscar who refused to be weighed on fight night. Floyds unofficial weight for fight night was 149 which means he lost a pound over night(He and pacman are probably the only guys who only hydrate only a couple pounds). Floyd has also only weighed in at the 147 limit once and that was against Hatton. And Marquez yes he did come in 2 pounds over so there isn't an argument from me on that even though Marquez still gets a beatdown if he didn't.

Please read my post.... I said there was nothing wrong with Pac asking can he still make WW and there was nothing wrong with Cotto asking Pac if he has changed his mind about not fighting above 147... Kconz said in an interview that the would have enertained 148 for Cotto but the negotiations never got started because Cotto said he couldn't go below 150 and Manny after coming in at 144.5 for a 150 pound fight said that 147 is his limit... All Manny did was ask Cotto if he could make WW just like Cotto asked if Manny could fight above WW... I don't see a problem either way... How does anyone know Cotto can't fight at 147 unless you ask him??? How does anyone know if Pac changed his mind about not fighting above 147 again??? I just don't understand the problems with Cotto and Pacquiao asking each other those basic questions....

[Pin Galarga]

Cotto said it clearly: I'M NO DRAINING MY BODY AGAIN FOR PACQUIAO.
He's not loosing to weight, if He looses, He looses to skills and heart.
Against the Cheater, I can understand why He wouldn't give the plasterking any advantage, but He didn't ask for catchweight to face a far better boxer.
Fck the Cheater and fck Manny the catchweight king.

[Stl_Buay]

As far as Margarito Im not going to disagree because I always felt pacman did take some punishment even though he won every round it wasnt easy. But if everything you say is true about him saying 150 and above its to much why even entertain any fights at the weight. If its not fair for him to move up it should be the same for his opponent as well. Its not right to make Cotto come down to 147. If Manny not a full welter then fight jr welters, you can't have it both ways, either fight at the limits or don't take it at all. As far as Floyd your way off. Floyd has never come in the ring at 150 or over, not even against Oscar who refused to be weighed on fight night. Floyds unofficial weight for fight night was 149 which means he lost a pound over night(He and pacman are probably the only guys who only hydrate only a couple pounds). Floyd has also only weighed in at the 147 limit once and that was against Hatton. And Marquez yes he did come in 2 pounds over so there isn't an argument from me on that even though Marquez still gets a beatdown if he didn't.

Another thing and not to nic pic but yes he is basically a 140 pounder but he fights at welter for the same reason EVERY guy moves up.. One of two reasons 1) The can no longer make the weight (Duran probably the best 135 pounder to ever live but he liked ice cream too much... 2) Too move to a glam divison. The glam divisons in boxing are 126, 135, 147, 160, 175, and Heavyweight... Roy Jones should have spent more time at 168 but the glam divisions for him were 160 and 175... As great as Holyfield was as a Crusier nobody even remembers him in that divison... It's not about having it both ways... It's just the truth most 140 pound champs would rather be 147 pound champs... The original weight classes get more attention than the newer ones...

[Champ Is Here]

Pac fans surely are back talking a lot of crap when just 3 months ago they disappeared of the face of the earth

Remember Cotto won his last one. Did your man win his? LOL

[Fistic]

I do not think that we'll see another post all day that can top this simple, truthful & correct post.

Is that your baby girl in the avi bro? She's a champ dude

[Fistic]

Cotto said it clearly: I'M NO DRAINING MY BODY AGAIN FOR PACQUIAO.
He's not loosing to weight, if He looses, He looses to skills and heart.
Against the Cheater, I can understand why He wouldn't give the plasterking any advantage, but He didn't ask for catchweight to face a far better boxer.Fck the Cheater and fck Manny the catchweight king.

That's a good point, I think others need to realize that.

[oside4life]

i'm a huge cotto fan, and i'm also a fan of mayweathers, but will be def rooting for my boy miguel on may 5. That being said the 148 is complete bull****. And two i'm excited to see this fight, i believe miguel can be competative and very competative if he goes to the body. And rerember its boxing anything can happen. This is not a complete mismatch as I view it. Is it a tough task for miguel hell ****ing yeah, but i believe in him and i'm hoping he wins. All the people that are complaining about this fight and this and that why watch sports, the one thing that makes sports great is upsets, not always the best wins in every game, fight etc... Just ask the 2007 patriots when they were upset by the gmen. It's sports **** can happen at any moment. With that being said LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO COTTTTTTTTOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[Fistic]

Cotto is shot. He was never a dominant Welterweight or Light Welterweight and will be destroyed by Floyd in a manner he has never experienced previously.

Wow, just wow. You might catch an unpleasant surprise on Cinco de Mayo.