Mayweather v Martinez @ 154lbs, will it happen?

[IronDanHamza]

Where would you rank Floyd if he were to beat Cotto, followed by Pacquiao, followed by Martinez in 2013. All dominating wins.

Probably around Top 15-20.

Off the top of my head.

If he were to dominate both Martinez at 154+ and Pacquaio at 147.

They're the kind of wins that would vastly enhance his legacy, IMO.

[Barry Halls]

Probably around Top 15-20.

Off the top of my head.

If he were to dominate both Martinez at 154+ and Pacquaio at 147.

They're the kind of wins that would vastly enhance his legacy, IMO.

yet i always read Pac is already greater than Henry Armstrong.

But yeah in all seriousness, i think i'd have a hard time thinking of more than 15 that has a clear case to be ranked ahead of Floyd if he were to pull that off.
Obviously dependent on Pac and Martinez not being significantly worse by the time he fights them.

[-Kev-]

Okay, Harry Balls and Irondan, let's replace Pacquiao with Canelo. So Cotto, Canelo, Martinez...what that make him in your opinion, 20-25?

[Bushbaby]

Floyd is braver & a better fighter than Pacman, but he isn't that damn brave.

[Barry Halls]

i don't know, not fighting Pac is a significant drop off in my opinion. And a Canelo win is currently not worth much if anything at all, and who can he fight in the interim to change that? Jcc jr? I would think not.

I guess top25 beatin Martinez? I don't have a list so i probably shouldn't spout off things like that, but he would advance a few steps for sure.

I'd rate it even higher if it's for the lineal mw championship than at 154.

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

Maybe.........................


Floyd beats him though.

[IronDanHamza]

Okay, Harry Balls and Irondan, let's replace Pacquiao with Canelo. So Cotto, Canelo, Martinez...what that make him in your opinion, 20-25?

Probably not, IMO.

Cotto and Canelo do nothing for his legacy IMO as opposed to Pacquaio and Martinez that both do.

Taking out the Pacquaio and replacing it with Alvarez would sufficiently lesser the enhancement of his legacy.

But, beating Martinez alone at 154+ would move him around the Top 25-30 mark. Again, IMO.

[Barry Halls]

on the other hand, going off Pac = top10 atg and greater than Armstrong already, Floyd should probably be top15 right now and top5 for beating Martinez. I'm sure Bert Sugar would agree.

[IronDanHamza]

on the other hand, going off Pac = top10 atg and greater than Armstrong already, Floyd should probably be top15 right now and top5 for beating Martinez. I'm sure Bert Sugar would agree.

Good old Bert.

[-Kev-]

We don't know what Alvarez ends up doing in his career though.

For all we know, his career could just end up flopping and a Floyd win over him just gets lesser and lesser. But then he can become great and a Floyd win over him becomes greater by the years.

For example, Diego Corrales is seen as one of Floyd's best win to date. A lot of people still mention it as the #1 win, yet Corrales had no real notable opponent before fighting Floyd. It's what Corrales did after that, becoming champ again, beating Casamayor, Castillo, Freitas, being in one the '00 decade greatest fights...that win enhanced after that along with Floyd being underdog in that fight. But let's face it, Floyd won't be underdog ever again for as long as his career last from 147-160.

So if Canelo can become a very good fighter and be champ again after losing to Floyd and keep tearing up every one like he did before losing to Floyd, I think the win can grow.