Pac refused to fight this version of Cotto without a CW

[Bushbaby]

I don't think there's anything wrong with eating a lil crow now and then. No one's always right. But the Floyd fans do find ways to try a legitimize anything Floyd does, no matter how hypocritical or double standard it makes them look, just like their hero.

[ADP02]

But I didn't say that and Im not saying that , that's my point you don't read the whole thing , I didn't say it was ok I said I can understand why he did it , I dont like CWs , doesn't mean they are all wrong , some are fcked some are no problems and get a great fight made , judge them on there merits not throw a blanket over them , itsw like all the PED BS in here , every muscled winner is on PEDS so say the fanbase of the losing fighter .

Cotto was drained and there is a lot of evidence to support that , the comments from him , the fight itself , but the most standout part is Manny refusing point blank to fight him without the CW in the first fight , even though they said Cotto was damaged goods it was 145 or no fight , but the second time Manny refused to fight Cotto even though he beat the crap out of , tells me in Mannys mind the weight is crucial to a Cotto fight , he wont fight him healthy .

In Floyd case there was nothing off Im walking without the weight from Floyd , not to say it wouldn't happened it may have , but it didn't ! so we don't know there .
We don't know if the weight is good for Canelo or bad its to early , so far it looks good going on what they are saying about having training so more professionalfor this fight with altitude training nutrition experts , his weight now at 165 is spot on , so far everything looks like a great camp from Canelo .

Canelo being physically bigger than Cotto must mean 2lbs to him is less draining that 2lbs to Cotto , it has to be , yet you claim Cotto was fine and Canelo will be drained , that is just argumentative fanboy BS , in the very least we must wait until the fight to see if Canelo is in the same condition Cotto was in .

Canelo is undefeated and 22 , not coming of his worst beating and not near the end of his career , he has an undefeated mind and will be trained to perfection , in my eyes its a very dangerous fight for Floyd at this stage of his career , he will be in with a very strong undefeated fast handed opponent , and you talk of me not being objective lol , you need to read your own posts .

Canelo had a fight several years ago where he couldn't make the CW and struggled to end up close to 152. So you can't say it will be easier for Canelo than Cotto. Secondly, in Canelo's most recent fight now balloons up to 172 and had terrible stamina issues while having a low work-rate. Weight issues and his youth are the most probable factors for his stamina issues.

Your hero Floyd said that his version of Cotto is better than current version of Canelo. Is Floyd wrong? Remember that Canelo is young but inexperienced. He has never fought someone that moves like Floyd at this level of boxing. So if Floyd will stay on the outside, Canelo will be in new territory and learning on the job. Not good!

As for my posts, depending on whether it's necessary or not, I usually back them up with facts.

[Reloaded]

Canelo had a fight several years ago where he couldn't make the CW and struggled to end up close to 152. So you can't say it will be easier for Canelo than Cotto. Secondly, in Canelo's most recent fight now balloons up to 172 and had terrible stamina issues while having a low work-rate. Weight issues and his youth are the most probable factors for his stamina issues.

Your hero Floyd said that his version of Cotto is better than current version of Canelo. Is Floyd wrong? Remember that Canelo is young but inexperienced. He has never fought someone that moves like Floyd at this level of boxing. So if Floyd will stay on the outside, Canelo will be in new territory and learning on the job. Not good!

As for my posts, depending on whether it's necessary or not, I usually back them up with facts.

Did you miss the part about Canelo training like a F1 fighter instead of a contender coming up , did you take into account then and now as in how much has he matured as a fighter , how much different will his preparation be this time , you know like Manny getting KOed by bums and then becoming a great fighter he improved didn't he , or in Pacs ville the only people that improve is Manny and his opponents , you watch Canelo come into this fight trained to perfection , Ive seen and heard the signs of that already , what facts have you got to the NOW ?

[2501]

I love how the guys like you that I have beat so many times in debates jump up with an insult post thgis is why I think your cowards even though your just kids is all you are , thats why I don't care what you kids come out with .

I will debate the facts of boxing with anyone , do you people ever actually comprehend the context of whats said , ah nope !

The **** boxing are you going to debate? The only stats you know are Floyd stats. Anytime anyone else fights, you get on here and talk about Floyd or talk **** about Manny. That's ALL you do. If I were to try to engage in any kind of boxing discussion with you, this is how it would go..

Me: I can't get over Rigo's accuracy when countering. His footwork and balance is sick. I'm a Mares fan, but I think he easily outpoints Mares.

Reloaded: Yeah, but Floyd counted 1 Million on a plane once.

Me: Ooooooh kay? Anyway, I think GGG and Chavez would be fight of the year. Both are going to be right in each other's spaces and it's a fight Jr could possibly win because of his size advantage and chin.

Reloaded: Floyd gets the finest *****es, tho. Ms Jackson is a 10. **** 50 cent though. I used to be all about G Unit until Floyd said they weren't cool anymore.

Me: ..........

[I Love Jesus!]

Don't worry guys, manny will be back in november and you guys can get back to loving him. Must be sad. No manny. No nonito. Both waxed in embarassing fashion. I'm having a great summer not having to hear posters like you talk about the two of them. But hey bob and hbo will give them eacha retread loser to sacrifice at the altar.

Reloaded keep up the good work.

Must be pretty pathetic to have to blame everyone else for being some fighters fanboy to feel better about yourself being one. Does it make you feel like your not alone? Lol look at the immense ****** you're saddling up to in this thread for starters that should bring you down to reality.

[I Love Jesus!]

The **** boxing are you going to debate? The only stats you know are Floyd stats. Anytime anyone else fights, you get on here and talk about Floyd or talk **** about Manny. That's ALL you do. If I were to try to engage in any kind of boxing discussion with you, this is how it would go..

Me: I can't get over Rigo's accuracy when countering. His footwork and balance is sick. I'm a Mares fan, but I think he easily outpoints Mares.

Reloaded: Yeah, but Floyd counted 1 Million on a plane once.

Me: Ooooooh kay? Anyway, I think GGG and Chavez would be fight of the year. Both are going to be right in each other's spaces and it's a fight Jr could possibly win because of his size advantage and chin.

Reloaded: Floyd gets the finest *****es, tho. Ms Jackson is a 10. **** 50 cent though. I used to be all about G Unit until Floyd said they weren't cool anymore.

Me: ..........

So true and don't even think about saying even slightly negative about Floyd or this bitter old groupie will try to put anthrax in your soup.

[wazaa.]

Reloaded is the piss-pole of this forum.

Piss along fellow foum members. He was made to be pissed on.

[The Big Dunn]

Must be pretty pathetic to have to blame everyone else for being some fighters fanboy to feel better about yourself being one. Does it make you feel like your not alone? Lol look at the immense ****** you're saddling up to in this thread for starters that should bring you down to reality.

No manny. No nonito. Both waxed in embarassing fashion. I'm having a great summer not having to read posts from most of the dregs of his diehard fanbase.

Of course there are a few that continue the floyd hating on a daily basis. Keep at it.

Reloaded is no different than you!

[lfc19titles]

Lmao, just reading the posts of reloaded, how he is making excuses saying floyds cw are ok and cotto's was not (despite cotto saying he was in his best condition ever just before the fight) is just so hilarious

these floyd fans are just plain ignorant, they make excuses for everything, from him beating women, being racist and now being exposed as an hypocrite, they still make excuses for him and act as if he is ok with doing it while it was not ok for pac

just a disgrace, he should have just been a man and admitted his ******ity, but no...he takes it further

[The Big Dunn]

Lmao, just reading the posts of reloaded, how he is making excuses saying floyds cw are ok and cotto's was not (despite cotto saying he was in his best condition ever just before the fight) is just so hilarious

these floyd fans are just plain ignorant, they make excuses for everything, from him beating women, being racist and now being exposed as an hypocrite, they still make excuses for him and act as if he is ok with doing it while it was not ok for pac

just a disgrace, he should have just been a man and admitted his ******ity, but no...he takes it further

There is not one post where I said floyd's cw was ok. all Ihave done is asked why posters like you, reloaded, davis40 etc changed their positions on CW's when floyd did it.