Pac refused to fight this version of Cotto without a CW

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Your a bit off in the head dude , I don't know this guy , your own evidence is the opposite of what I write do you realize that , I don't get your point , I don't get your agenda , you pimple poppers with the hat on backwards and pants inside out are just plain ol fcked in the head lol .

Dude, you are in the wrong thread my friend. You need to be in the "will floyd PPV numbers fall if he loses" thread and go toe to toe with Pac Boy.

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Dude, you are in the wrong thread my friend. You need to be in the "will floyd PPV numbers fall if he loses" thread and go toe to toe with Pac Boy.

Lol , Im not allowed into the imaginary and what if threads , that the Pac fanboys start everyday , they just for 12yr olds and under !

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Lol , Im not allowed into the imaginary and what if threads the Pac fanboys start everyday they just for 12yr olds and under .

Good stuff.

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Jeezas your dumb , read slowly , These are conditions he has never had before much improved training and training coaches including nutrition experts and altitude training , his weight being 165 now .

, and you don't think that level of training cannot lose 1 lb from his 153 against Trout , you need to have a go at boxing because you argue a fans perspective never a fighters perspective because you just don't understand anything other than the hype .

Now with Cotto the moment he was out of TR contract he stated he was squeezed to take the fight at the CW , that he will NEVER ABUSE HIS BODY LIKE THAT AGAIN FOR ANOTHER FIGHTER .

You want some more facts .
Manny REFUSED to fight a guy he already beat because he would not fight him healthy (Cottos words ) and Manny refused this fight when he was the one that called Cotto out and it was Mannys biggest money fight at the time.

If you cant see through Manny on ducking Cotto because of weight then you need to take your blinders off .

Just a quick question , why does Manny fight guys coming of their biggest loses , why does he like to fight losers and not winners ?

lol you don't realize it but you are throwing yourself into the deep end without knowing how to swim. Classic, just classic.


You need to reread your previous post, man. YOU said the following not me:

RELOADED - "Canelo training like a F1 fighter instead of a contender coming up "
RESPONSE: So Canelo was just a contender when training for his last fight? .... Canelo may not have had a nutritionist but he said in those interviews that he is "ready", "well prepared", "well trained", "well conditioned" ..... BUT we all saw a very lethargic Canelo who didn't even have to struggle down to 152. All he had to do is come down to 154.



RELOADED - "did you take into account then and now as in how much has he matured as a fighter "
RESPONSE: Again, all I saw from his last fight was his stamina issues. Future situations are just speculation at this point.




RELOADED - "you watch Canelo come into this fight trained to perfection"
RESPONSE: You have no proof of this. It's all speculation yet with proof that came from Cotto's pre-fight and post-fight interviews stating that he was "stronger than Manny" and "weight wasn't the issue" you can't come to that very easy to understand conclusion.



Finally, your discussions about Cotto not taking the fight because of not wanting a CW is a joke when you take the below into considerations:
- Cotto knew that Manny would beat him again so he didn't fight Manny when he had the chance. Cotto had other options and took it.
- Cotto wanted to CW Margarito at 150 - 151.
- Cotto may go back to 147.
- Cotto after losing to Trout, everyone here said Cotto is no 154 fighter and should go back to 147.

So YOU are WRONG AGAIN and AGAIN and AGAIN!!!

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lol you don't realize it but you are throwing yourself into the deep end without knowing how to swim. Classic, just classic.


You need to reread your previous post, man. YOU said the following not me:

RELOADED - "Canelo training like a F1 fighter instead of a contender coming up "
RESPONSE: So Canelo was just a contender when training for his last fight? .... Canelo may not have had a nutritionist but he said in those interviews that he is "ready", "well prepared", "well trained", "well conditioned" ..... BUT we all saw a very lethargic Canelo who didn't even have to struggle down to 152. All he had to do is come down to 154.



RELOADED - "did you take into account then and now as in how much has he matured as a fighter "
RESPONSE: Again, all I saw from his last fight was his stamina issues. Future situations are just speculation at this point.




RELOADED - "you watch Canelo come into this fight trained to perfection"
RESPONSE: You have no proof of this. It's all speculation yet with proof that came from Cotto's pre-fight and post-fight interviews stating that he was "stronger than Manny" and "weight wasn't the issue" you can't come to that very easy to understand conclusion.



Finally, your discussions about Cotto not taking the fight because of not wanting a CW is a joke when you take the below into considerations:
- Cotto knew that Manny would beat him again so he didn't fight Manny when he had the chance. Cotto had other options and took it.
- Cotto wanted to CW Margarito at 150 - 151.
- Cotto may go back to 147.
- Cotto after losing to Trout, everyone here said Cotto is no 154 fighter and should go back to 147.

So YOU are WRONG AGAIN and AGAIN and AGAIN!!!

Ah word games with a fanboy lol , short answer is for you to go give the sport a first hand go and then reread it all , its so obvious you have never boxed in anyway shape or form .

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Ah word games with a fanboy lol , short answer is for you to go give the sport a first hand go and then reread it all , its so obvious you have never boxed in anyway shape or form .

You have no idea ..... again, just speculation.

I have been around boxing for a while now. I'm no kid who was just introduced to the sport.

Actually even at my "mature" age, I am still a very athletic person. I can hang with guys half my age and burn them to the ground. That is why I know how important experience, conditioning and weight issues are. Not speculating like you do.

People who train with me always freak out when I say my age and see what I can do.

Floyd is a gym rat and that gives him the edge over his opponents but from my own experience I know that there is more to it than that. Some people can only improve so much while others have the capacity to improve way more. I was fortunate to have certain assets that always gives me the edge that others can't get even though they train double, triple the amount of time that I put in.

You can say what you want about Canelo but it's all speculation until we see him on fight night. It doesn't take a boxing or conditioning expert to know that.

All I know is that you are way too subjective when it comes to this topic. I have presented you facts but you can't handle facts. You prefer to listen to your subjective/speculative mind.

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You have no idea ..... again, just speculation.

I have been around boxing for a while now. I'm no kid who was just introduced to the sport.

Actually even at my "mature" age, I am still a very athletic person. I can hang with guys half my age and burn them to the ground. That is why I know how important experience, conditioning and weight issues are. Not speculating like you do.

People who train with me always freak out when I say my age and see what I can do.

Floyd is a gym rat and that gives him the edge over his opponents but from my own experience I know that there is more to it than that. Some people can only improve so much while others have the capacity to improve way more. I was fortunate to have certain assets that always gives me the edge that others can't get even though they train double, triple the amount of time that I put in.

You can say what you want about Canelo but it's all speculation until we see him on fight night. It doesn't take a boxing or conditioning expert to know that.

All I know is that you are way too subjective when it comes to this topic. I have presented you facts but you can't handle facts. You prefer to listen to your subjective/speculative mind.

Yeah yeah , that's why you cannot debate training weight , fight weight and the process inbetween .

Talking to you is all about he said she said , and if some empty head writes an bias article you think its fact , you cant comprehend on a level because you have no understanding of what goes on at that level , you talk numbers with no idea of what they mean to different fighters , you cant even comprehend that 2lb to Cotto is more than 2lb to Canelo lol ,

You pac fans are hype junkies scouring the net for gossip , your hero went splat because he was always going too and it didn't take long to do it as soon as the opponents were healthy they trouble him greatly even guys smaller than him , but all that goes over your head as well , you argue he said she said all day everyday , you carry on about all things outside of the ring more than you do what goes on inside it , again no understanding of what it takes in this sport your just a typical fanboy .

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Yeah yeah , that's why you cannot debate training weight , fight weight and the process inbetween .

Talking to you is all about he said she said , and if some empty head writes an bias article you think its fact , you cant comprehend on a level because you have no understanding of what goes on at that level , you talk numbers with no idea of what they mean to different fighters , you cant even comprehend that 2lb to Cotto is more than 2lb to Canelo lol ,

You pac fans are hype junkies scouring the net for gossip , your hero went splat because he was always going too and it didn't take long to do it as soon as the opponents were healthy they trouble him greatly even guys smaller than him , but all that goes over your head as well , you argue he said she said all day everyday , you carry on about all things outside of the ring more than you do what goes on inside it , again no understanding of what it takes in this sport your just a typical fanboy .

It appears to be that you don't understand. Everyone tried to explain it to you but you are too far gone ....

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This is a hilarious thread. In hindsight it should have been titled 'NSB's most ******ed floydiot implodes'.

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Yeah yeah , that's why you cannot debate training weight , fight weight and the process inbetween .

Talking to you is all about he said she said , and if some empty head writes an bias article you think its fact , you cant comprehend on a level because you have no understanding of what goes on at that level , you talk numbers with no idea of what they mean to different fighters , you cant even comprehend that 2lb to Cotto is more than 2lb to Canelo lol ,

You pac fans are hype junkies scouring the net for gossip , your hero went splat because he was always going too and it didn't take long to do it as soon as the opponents were healthy they trouble him greatly even guys smaller than him , but all that goes over your head as well , you argue he said she said all day everyday , you carry on about all things outside of the ring more than you do what goes on inside it , again no understanding of what it takes in this sport your just a typical fanboy .

Once again priced to be a biased moron. You are validating Floyd's cw but not pace lmao. I suppose it is time to embarrass you again. Losing 2 pounds hurt cotto more? Do you watch boxing if you did, you would know cotto came at a comfortable 146 pounds in nearly all of his welter fights! That right there is proof you are wrong kid. Cotto also said a few days before the fight, he was in his best shape ever.

Onto canelo, Floyd said Canelo offered 152 like cotto offered 145. Lies proved again as Canelo himself said he wanted 154. Floyd said and his stans said he only fights fighters at their weight at their best. Lies again and now you and Floyd make up lies to defend yourself. You are a joke reloaded. Toy are just a sad lonely person. I really do pity your life