ViCTor oRTiz - WHAT TOO MAKE OF HIM?

[Cuauhtémoc1520]

He's very much like Judah in that he is so talented that people are going to jump on every glimpse of potential he shows and overrate Ortiz. You can see it already, much the same way fans have always said "if Judah's mentally right he will win" against anyone, they say that now with Ortiz. "If the Ortiz from the Berto fight shows up..."

NEWSFLASH: There is no difference between the Ortiz that beat Berto and the Ortiz that lost to Maidana and Mayweather are no different. The only difference was the opponent, not Ortiz. Yet people will, for the rest of Ortiz's career, say "if Ortiz's head is right, if the Ortiz from the Berto fight shows up," no matter who he fights.

Watch, if he gets a Mayweather rematch there will be a vocal minority that says, "He wont' be intimidated this time, he will be young and strong and the guy from the Berto fight will show up this time."

No way...

Ortiz that fought Berto was a completely different fighter than the one against Maidana. He quit vs Maidana, he was hit harder vs Berto, knocked down and got up to win that fight.

That was a pivotal moment for Ortiz IMO but you are right about the mentality of the two.

I just think Judah is full of **** where as at least Ortiz is honest in saying he didn't deserve to be hit the way he was.