does anyone really think boytsov at 213lbs could actually beat a klitschko?

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  • joe strong
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    does anyone really think boytsov at 213lbs could actually beat a klitschko?

    he's 30-0(25ko) but at 213lbs i just can't see him holding up against a real puncher. lots to prove yet in my eyes.no chance to beat either brother. i don't think he beats dimitrenko or pulev.
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    by Pavel Yakovlev: (1/28/12) – Heavyweight contender Denis Boytsov stopped Darnell Wilson in four rounds in Hamburg, Germany today. A single right cross to the head dropped Wilson, who was counted out at 0:45. Boytsov (WBC #4, WBA #5, IBF #6, and WBO #4), advances his record to 30-0 (25 KO’s). Wilson, a former top contender as a cruiserweight who now fights often as a trial horse in Europe, falls to 24-14 (20 KO’s).

    Both fighters fought tentatively for most of the match. Although Boytsov, 213 ¾ lbs., stalked Wilson constantly from the opening bell, most of his jabs fell short, and his frequent left hooks to the body were always smothered. Wilson, 226 lbs., spent most of the match slowly backing away, circling to the both sides, and missing with occasional overhand rights to the head and wide, sweeping left hooks to the body.

    After a slow first round, which Wilson won by landing the only clean punches (two light left hooks to the head), Boytsov became more aggressive in the second. The Russian increased his punch output, standing straight up and pressing forward behind left jabs. Although Boytsov’s jabs generally fell short and he was unable to connect with his powerpunches, he did land two sharp left hooks near the end of the round. Wilson, for his part, seemed content to play defense and retreat.

    In the third, Boytsov continued to dictate the pace of the bout, and managed to connect with a couple of solid jabs and a sharp right to the head. Wilson, still backing away, attempted little more than occasional big overhand rights that landed on Boytsov’s shoulders. In the fourth, Wilson attempted a forceful left jab to the body, but in doing so left himself open to the thudding right cross that ended the bout.

    Despite the conclusiveness of Boytsov’s victory, this writer is unimpressed. The outcome of the bout seemed rooted more in Wilson’s apparent sluggishness than in Boytsov’s skill. On the whole, Wilson seemed strangely reticent in today’s match; he has fought far better in past fights. Although a technically solid fighter with decent power, Boytsov is not overly fast with his hands or feet, misses or falls short with many of his punches, stands straight up, and exhibits little upper-body movement. His power seems more clubbing than genuinely explosive. Boytsov’s prospects against the world’s best heavyweights remain an open question until he proves himself under fire against a legitimate top-10 contender or a tough top-25 world-rated foe.

    In other action on the card:

    Rakhim Chakhkiev UD 10 Alexander Kotlobay
    100-89, 100-189, 99-89
    Rafael Bejaran UD 12 Daniel Urbanski
    Firat Arslan TKO 2 Orlando Antonio Farias
    Denis Boytsov KO 4 Darnell Wilson
    Ruslan Chagaev UD 8 Kertson Manswell
    Ina Menzer UD 8 Milena Koleva
    Marcel Meyerdiercks UD 8 Roberto Santos de Jesus
    Vitali Tajbert UD 8 Jose Luis Graterol
    Vladimir Tereshkin DQ 5 Evgeny Orlov

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    • The Gambler1981
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      Well Wlad and Vitali are totally different, but a guy of that size would have to get inside and work from there but that is easier said than done against big powerful heavyweights.

      Wlad getting stopped by anyone with power I wouldn't find that surprising, is Boystov likely to do that no but if he can get in range he could cause some issues.

      Vitali is much harder to see, but Vitali is aging so if he keeps fighting a young lion will eventually really get after him, not likely either though in the near future.

      He is pretty much in the same boat with every other heavy at this point, a hopeful but without a lot of real reasons behind believing them capable of dethroning the champs.

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      • Hayehammer
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        Not to long ago i would have answered the question with yes he can beat a klitschko! But since then i have seen no improvements on his parts! he still young 25 and can improve but i dont like his progress! 30 fights and still didnt step up thanks to his promoters and hand problems!
        We can hope for the best that Pulev and boytsov gets made this year!
        After that we will know so much more about what boytsov can do or not

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          ...well he'd beat Dimit, I have no doubt about that. Haven't seen enough of Pulev though.

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            The weight is not as important as the skill set.

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              Originally posted by joe strong
              he's 30-0(25ko) but at 213lbs i just can't see him holding up againa real puncher. lots to prove yet in my eyes.no chance to beat either brother. i don't think he beats dimitrenko or pulev.
              He doesn't have the skills or experience against top fighters to be a threat to the Klits at this point. He drops his left every time he throws the right and would pay dearly for that. Fun to watch, but just not on the same level as the bros.

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              • joe strong
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                after 30 fights he hasn't fought anyone. darnell wilson, vinny maddalone, & jason gavern are his best opponents thus far...i want to see him fight a top 25-30

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                • TheGreatA
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                  He's probably better off at 213 than 230. If being a heavyweight doesn't work out for him, he can always go to the cruiserweight division.

                  The reason why people don't think he can beat the Klitscko brothers is not necessarily his size, but the fact that he has not fought and beaten anybody close to being a top 10 fighter despite having been a pro for 8 years now.

                  He did not capitalize on the opportunities after creating some excitement about himself as a prospect early on.

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                    Originally posted by TheGreatA
                    He's probably better off at 213 than 230. If being a heavyweight doesn't work out for him, he can always go to the cruiserweight division.

                    The reason why people don't think he can beat the Klitscko brothers is not necessarily his size, but the fact that he has not fought and beaten anybody close to being a top 10 fighter despite having been a pro for 8 years now.

                    He did not capitalize on the opportunities after creating some excitement about himself as a prospect early on.
                    This. His size has nothing to do with it. At Heavy, one can overcome size if they have the right factors besides. Holyfield a la the first Bowe fight (205) would have been a tough fight for either and those would be fights either side could win. Boytsov is being sat on so hard it leads one to believe his handlers don't believe in him OR he's waiting for a Klit-less world to move on.

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