Pacquiao is capable of knocking out Marquez in the first round!

[tracylee]

aha..i got your point..yeah, that's why marquez is running like hell in the carazy mountain, for him to have more stamina in running when he meets manny..hehe..LOL

Running?!? It's called "stick and move", or, even better, boxing. Just cause he's not ****** enought to stand toe to toe with him doesnt make him a running coward! Pump Manny up all you like, but you dont have to insult JMM to do it. He is a master at the sweet science, which involves punching and moving out of the way of counters! Nothing cowardly about that...not at all..its called being smart, being a boxer, a good technician.

[semjasa]

Pacquiao, in my opinion, is capable of knocking out Marques in the first round. Remember their first meeting, Pacquiao knocked Marquez three times in the first round, then Pacquiao went to the nose and broke Marquez' nose. But then he probably hurt his left hand and couldn't throw his punches with passion.
This time around he can finish him off. Especially now he just got off from the fight with a Thai fighter unhurt. Plus He'll have more time to really polish what he started in training for the Thai guy. He'll be in top condition with more passion to finish Marquez in the first round or second. He will reign in 2005.

This is just my humblest opinion. what is yours?

Tell me something I dont allready know/.....

[tracylee]

pacquiao was only knocked out 3 times, the 2 ones a loss. the first knock out of his career was due to his inexperience, he was winning the fighr, but he got careless...the second one, he was severely dehydrated to make the weight limit, and he lost that one too. the third one, he was just unprepared for that fight, because of his night time activities and playing billiards, but he came back to win that fight..LOL

Okay, this is the last post I'm making in a row...but I've posted about 6 times now that every fighters record should look like this: wins-losses-draws-excuses......as in 20-2-0-(2). I respect fighters that claim they got beat cause they were in against a better fighter AT THAT TIME! I agree that in his first fight inexperience had alot to do with it, but injured hands and too tight socks kill me!!!

[JaNnO]

I have to disagree with some of this. JMM made the proper adjustments in the first fight, and I fully believe that when the time comes, he will do so again and be able to handle all these "surprises" you say Manny has in store for him. I think that while getting worked up about Manny (which since youre a big fan, thats understandable ) that you may be underestimating JMM, and not giving him his credit. He is an excellent boxer, counter puncher, and all around technician. I know that Manny has alot of power, and maybe he's worked towards 'mixing' his game up some, but he really did seem very one dimensional to me and that is one thing that JMM is NOT! I posted before that if Manny would work on improving his technique, and not have to rely on his power so much, he would be a force to reckon with. But, I wont discredit what JMM is fully capable of doing either; and thats not only withstanding mannys power, but winning a clear decision.
It's being said that JMM wasnt able to finish Manny off; well, that isnt what he does...he boxes, and quite well. And, Manny wasnt able to finish him off either, and I dont really believe all that about broken (or injured) hands, and you gotta admit that the 'too tight' socks is hard to take serious, even as unique an excuse as it is

no tracy, i'm not underestimating jmm. on the other hand i feel it's the jmm fans that are underestimating pac because they think he is one-dimensional and relies solely on his power and speed. i respect their opinion but i just won't sit down and keep silent about my true feeling on the subject matter. i'm a pac fan but i'm no nuthugger. i only reply to the level of their posts - fire with fire.

now about jmm -- i think he is one of the best if not the best counterpuncher(s) in boxing today. that being said, his style is passive and relies on what his opponent will do first. i know that looks amazing to most of the fans including yourself, because when a counterpuncher connects, it's gonna be a clean punch. that's the same reason why i think that if the fight goes to the scorecards, jmm is going to have an edge.

the other side of this is of course he doesn't know where the first punch is coming from and gauging from manny's speed - some of those lethal punches are going to land on jmm's face. that's why i said, manny has the element of surprise.

now on my post that jmm didn't finish manny off -- it was a reply to those who said that jmm will ko manny and send him to the canvass for good. i know that jmm thrives in methodical dissecting and wearing out of his opponents to win fights.

i think the socks fiasco was an awful excuse, but i honestly believe manny is a plain person to tell that scrupulous alibi.

[JaNnO]

Not singling you out (you know I love all the pinoys ) but I think that Kimmy is right about alot of American fans being behind JMM. I'm just one of many

tracy, i know you're a sweet person, but i'm a skeptic unless i see the exact numbers. i also believe that pac will have some support in the usa and even mexico. it's just a plain fact.

[tracylee]

no tracy, i'm not underestimating jmm. on the other hand i feel it's the jmm fans that are underestimating pac because they think he is one-dimensional and relies solely on his power and speed. i respect their opinion but i just won't sit down and keep silent about my true feeling on the subject matter. i'm a pac fan but i'm no nuthugger. i only reply to the level of their posts - fire with fire.

now about jmm -- i think he is one of the best if not the best counterpuncher(s) in boxing today. that being said, his style is passive and relies on what his opponent will do first. i know that looks amazing to most of the fans including yourself, because when a counterpuncher connects, it's gonna be a clean punch. that's the same reason why i think that if the fight goes to the scorecards, jmm is going to have an edge.

the other side of this is of course he doesn't know where the first punch is coming from and gauging from manny's speed - some of those lethal punches are going to land on jmm's face. that's why i said, manny has the element of surprise.

now on my post that jmm didn't finish manny off -- it was a reply to those who said that jmm will ko manny and send him to the canvass for good. i know that jmm thrives in methodical dissecting and wearing out of his opponents to win fights.

i think the socks fiasco was an awful excuse, but i honestly believe manny is a plain person to tell that scrupulous alibi.

Not so amazing to me (so dont throw me in there) I actually prefer a slugger to a counter puncher. I also admire a true technician when he's plying his craft...that is what boxing is all about. JMM doesnt ONLY counter either; he boxes, plain and simple. And I still think that if he took what Manny dished out in the first fight, got back up (with a broken nose) repeatedly and then clearly outboxed Manny the remainder of the fight then he can do so again.
And for the record, I NEVER expected or wanted you to keep quiet about your guy...thats what coming to the forum is all about..to express different views, etc.
Thats cool..I totally respect your opinion, cause Mannys fans are amazing in the loyality and devotion. I've always liked JMM cause to me he represents BOXING perfectly! He has some of it all...he's not quite that powerful, and he knows it, so he has compensated for that with skill...natural talent, which he has a butt load of. If he can handle the power (again), and I think he can, then there's just no way that I can see manny outboxing him. And JMM winning a decision wont be cause of bias either...I'm tired of hearing that one too! He can win the decision fairly, and I really think he will

[JaNnO]

Running?!? It's called "stick and move", or, even better, boxing. Just cause he's not ****** enought to stand toe to toe with him doesnt make him a running coward! Pump Manny up all you like, but you dont have to insult JMM to do it. He is a master at the sweet science, which involves punching and moving out of the way of counters! Nothing cowardly about that...not at all..its called being smart, being a boxer, a good technician.

tracy, i think it was a joke.

[tracylee]

tracy, i know you're a sweet person, but i'm a skeptic unless i see the exact numbers. i also believe that pac will have some support in the usa and even mexico. it's just a plain fact.

Of course Manny has an American fan base..I'm just saying that alot of us like JMM too! Not only Mexicans support him, not at all.

[tracylee]

tracy, i think it was a joke.

God I hope so, cause coward and JMM dont belong in the same sentence! He has guts, and alot of heart, or he wouldnt have continued to fight with his nose in that shape.

[Nautilus]

I agree with Tracy.

I really like both JMM and Pacman.

I think JMM-Pacman-2 will be a great battle, and I wish them both luck.