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  • #51
    Originally posted by fist-of-fury
    Well said!! And that makes counter-punchers most boring indeed.
    Thanks pal! Here's for a good year ahead!

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    • #52
      Originally posted by grayfist
      Thanks pal! Here's for a good year ahead!
      Happy New Year, too!! And here's looking forward to a more explosive year in boxing!! (and I don't mean car bombs and suicide bombings!!!)

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      • #53
        Originally posted by fist-of-fury
        Happy New Year, too!! And here's looking forward to a more explosive year in boxing!! (and I don't mean car bombs and suicide bombings!!!)
        I'm looking the same way pal!

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        • #54
          Originally posted by cheech306
          why is it that all u pac nuthuggers act like hes superman?? I say that had marquez fought all 12 rds smart he would've won becuase its the truth. Im not saying thats how the 2nd fight will be. get off his nuts already. and when did i ever say marquez should have finished him off? if anything pac HAD the chance to finish him but he couldnt!! why?? becuz marquez fought smarter. thats all im saying. stop feeling so offended cuz people favor marquez over pac. you cant honestly tell me u think pac won more than 4 of those last 11 rds..
          hey marquez nuthugger, did i say that pac is superman, you should be the one getting off juan's ****. all i'm saying is if he was really smart figuring out pac after the round 1, he should have won but didn't. i'm not feeling offended, it just happened that i'm on the other side of the fence seeing the whole things differently from your side. in fact i honestly think pac clearly won rounds 1,2,9,10 & 12.

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          • #55
            Originally posted by zoo
            It was almost shocking how fast Marquez figured Pacman out, Pac was strickly head hunting the rest of the night, he appeared almost sluggish after round 1. Pacquiao has been stopped in the past by lesser fighters, I'm sure this time around JMM will leave little doubt about who is the man at 126lbs.
            Pacquiao admitted in an interview that HE LOST his power after the 1st round. (see KO magazine where he was the cover). He says that a minimumweight had more power than him at that time. YOU WONT HEAR THIS EXCUSE MUCH FROM PACMAN FANS. (no one believe pacfans anyway )!! We are embarrased to give him that excuse but most of us believe this. THAT'S WHY YOU THOUGHT JMM FIGURED HIM OUT.

            Anyway, we will see on Feb. 26 if Pacman was just pulling our leg and making too many reasons for not Knocking JMM out.

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            • #56
              Originally posted by cheech306
              ledwaba and marquez are two different people. why do u feel the need to compare them. plus isnt ledwaba's nickname hands of stone?? marquez is simply a boxer and not a slugger at any level.
              because they're both counterpunchers imho and people thought the same way you do before the fight...until they got the shock of their life.
              Last edited by JaNnO; 12-31-2004, 01:38 PM.

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              • #57
                Originally posted by cheech306
                i dont understand y u think marquez is going to be a piece of cake. AFTER the 3 knockdowns he still got hit with the same left hand more than.. 5 times and didnt go down. u cant seriously tell me that pac will land the same way he did b4.. 2 hands my ass. pac still depends on his left. his right is just like anyone else's right so it wont discourage marquez one bit. he will still watch the left and thats all there is to it.
                i didn't say that, in fact i think this is gonna be a close fight even so if it goes to the score cards. nah, nobody thinks that pac will land the same he did -- it was a remote possibility. all the pacfans are saying is thos left straights will find those marks. you obviously doesn't know a lot about pac. have you seen most of his fights to say that he wouldn't connect with his left, i don't think so.
                Last edited by JaNnO; 12-31-2004, 01:37 PM.

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by JaNnO
                  isn't it that most boxer who is bent winning his fight always sees himself fighting a smart fight but not every one is successful -- the reason they he doesn't know what the other boxer will bring to the table comes fight night. if marquez can adjust well to pac, there's a good chance he can fight a smarter fight than the first one. but pac has the edge in coming out with enough surprises to make jmm think twice and confuse him to fall out of his plan. jmm being a passive counterpuncher will always fight the same style no matter what.

                  i noticed that a lot of you have so many "had marquez this and had pac that, then marquez could have won" -- the fact is he didn't deliver. and if he had 11 rounds in their first meeting, then why wasn't he able to finish the pacman off. if he didn't win the first time despite "figuring out" pacman, there is a slim chance he could do it next time. jmm will face a much better pacman -- and this time he will taste the canvass again and won't stand up.
                  I have to disagree with some of this. JMM made the proper adjustments in the first fight, and I fully believe that when the time comes, he will do so again and be able to handle all these "surprises" you say Manny has in store for him. I think that while getting worked up about Manny (which since youre a big fan, thats understandable ) that you may be underestimating JMM, and not giving him his credit. He is an excellent boxer, counter puncher, and all around technician. I know that Manny has alot of power, and maybe he's worked towards 'mixing' his game up some, but he really did seem very one dimensional to me and that is one thing that JMM is NOT! I posted before that if Manny would work on improving his technique, and not have to rely on his power so much, he would be a force to reckon with. But, I wont discredit what JMM is fully capable of doing either; and thats not only withstanding mannys power, but winning a clear decision.
                  It's being said that JMM wasnt able to finish Manny off; well, that isnt what he does...he boxes, and quite well. And, Manny wasnt able to finish him off either, and I dont really believe all that about broken (or injured) hands, and you gotta admit that the 'too tight' socks is hard to take serious, even as unique an excuse as it is

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by JaNnO
                    and manny will have all the filipinos behind his every punch. a lot of usa on jmm - i highly doubt it. at any rate it would be another exciting game for us to behold. i haven't heard marco called out jmm's name. pac vs. erik in july -- now that's something.
                    Not singling you out (you know I love all the pinoys ) but I think that Kimmy is right about alot of American fans being behind JMM. I'm just one of many

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by oldgringo
                      What are his new devastating weapons? Can you actually tell me what he's going to do?

                      Marquez seemed to take three of his good shots in the first round of their first fight...wouldn't you concur?

                      I never said Marquez will have time to set up his gameplan. I said Manny knows he can't let him do it...he's going to have to apply constant pressure to stay away from that dull, jogging pace that Marquez likes. But Marquez is a counter puncher...and he likes the pressure.

                      Manny by TKO in the middle rounds is your opinion. I have no beef with that.

                      When did you talk to Marquez to find out that his training burned him out? Oh, that's right, you didn't. How do you go from saying Marquez and Manny will be in good shape to saying Marquez will be burned out from too much training. Stop contradicting yourself.

                      Good post OG! I dont think anyone can safely ASSUME they know exactly what JMM's gameplan will be. I dont think its right to say that manny has all these changes, etc...and that JMM is basically just going to be there! Some make it sound like he's just gonna stand there, not knowing what to do, with his thumbs up his ass! He's no fool, and he's a damn fine boxer. He made the right adjustments in the first fight, and he will do so in the second...that is just what he does. To imply that he cant outbox Manny is to insult his talent (which is vast) and to pump Manny up too high!

                      SORRY FOR THE MULITPLE POSTS...JUST CATCHING UP GUYS!!!

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