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  • 4Corners
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    #141
    Originally posted by PACsmash
    i hate the "left over" part period!! in this sport u're bound to fight someone that another boxer have faced already, its just how it is. it was the floyd fans who took the left over part and blew it out. now they're backtracking what they said about left overs.
    Well, I am a Floyd fan, but never said anything about left overs. But, yes, a ton of Floyd fans did, because Floyd talked s**t about Manny a couple of times and said that. Floyd always talks s**t, but some people read too far into it.

    It's like saying Ali was Frazier's leftovers when Norton beat him. Or that Joe Frazier was George Foreman's leftovers when Ali beat him. Or that Floyd Patterson was Liston's leftovers when Ali beat him. Or that Hearns was Ray's leftovers when Hagler beat him. Or that Tyson was Douglas' leftovers when Holyfield beat him. The list goes on and on and on throughout the history of boxing. Yes, you get more credit for beating someone first, but you still your due for beating someone, if they are still good.

    Example, when Hatton fought Pac, he was still good. Cotto is still good. He's not prime, hasn't been the Margarito plaster fight, but he's still good.

    If it's not Mayweather-Pacquiao, they better make it for NOV or DEC. And in the meantime, it better be Mayweather-Cotto (hopefully at 154) and Pacquiao-Bradley.
    Last edited by 4Corners; 01-25-2012, 05:55 PM.

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      #142
      Originally posted by PACsmash
      nice try buddy but pac fought BOTH of them. cotto is a marg's left over, coool.... pac took care of that then took care of marg, wait wait marg is a mosley left over, pac took care of that too. LOL!!

      p.s. if cotto hasnt been the same since the first marg fight then why is floyd gonna fight cotto for then? LOL!! u said it not me!

      p.s.s cotto got his revenge at marg thanks to pac LOL!!
      Jezz you're a tool...

      Nobody wants to see Cotto get embarrassed by Mayweather but its a hole hell of a lot better than Alvarez getting that pay day.

      Bottom line chief, Pac agreed to the lesser share, May 5th and blood and urine testing so I wouldn't get your panties wrapped up in a bunch. Now carry on...

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      • PACsmash
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        #143
        Originally posted by 4CornersKid
        Well, I am a Floyd fan, but never said anything about left overs. But, yes, a ton of Floyd fans did, because Floyd talked s**t about Manny a couple of times and said that. Floyd always talks s**t, but some people read too far into it.

        If it's not Mayweather-Pacquiao, they better make it for NOV or DEC. And in the meantime, it better be Mayweather-Cotto (hopefully at 154) and Pacquiao-Bradley.
        funny thing is that pac out did floyd and put on a better performance against floyd's left overs. for floyd to get any credit, he's gonna have to out do pac and KO cotto which i dont see that happening.

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          #144
          Originally posted by PACsmash
          funny thing is that pac out did floyd and put on a better performance against floyd's left overs. for floyd to get any credit, he's gonna have to out do pac and KO cotto which i dont see that happening.
          True. But again, Floyd fought the better versions of Hatton and Oscar. Regardless, you still get more credit for doing it first. That goes with pretty much any boxer.

          It's not like Floyd did crappy against a prime Hatton, he was up 8-1/7-2 at the time of the KO. And the Oscar fight was a SD, but any reasonable and unbias boxing fan could see that fight was NOT A SPLIT DECISION. Floyd out landed Oscar by like 80 something punches and landed over 40% of his punches. I had that fight 9-3 Floyd, at the most 8-4 if I was being generous.

          Floyd and Manny have totally different styles. Manny is more of a combo fighter, who rushes in and out, throwing a ton, he tends to kock more people out. Floyd picks his punches and picks you apart.

          Wouldn't you at least agree that Pac should fight Bradley if May-Pac isn't it???

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            #145
            Originally posted by 4CornersKid
            I hate the "left over" talk too. It's bulls**t. Cotto is past his prime-still good. He's pretty much the same guy he was in 09' when he fought Pac, only at SWW now.

            Floyd got more credit for Hatton, because he did it first. But, Pac still gets his due for beating Hatton. In this case, Floyd would still get his due for beating Cotto, but Pac gets more because he did it first.

            Pac or Floyd vs. Cotto at 154 is a B+ fight. At 150, it's a C+/B-. At 147, it's a C-/C.

            Cotto isn't "shot". Shot is someone like Margarito, Mosley, etc.
            NO not when a fighter quits in the ring and is mentally never the same after. Just look at Hatton when Mayweather sent him on a date with that whore of a ring post..

            Look at Margarito when Mosley ***ed his life... Why do you think Pac fought Marg? Marg certainly wasn't "too good"... You don't have to like or dislike left overs but Cotto, Hatton and Margarito where certainly damaged left overs and Pac fought both them AFTER the fact.

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              #146
              Originally posted by PACsmash
              funny thing is that pac out did floyd and put on a better performance against floyd's left overs. for floyd to get any credit, he's gonna have to out do pac and KO cotto which i dont see that happening.
              This displays just how much of an idiot you are.

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                #147
                Originally posted by WESS
                NO not when a fighter quits in the ring and is mentally never the same after. Just look at Hatton when Mayweather sent him on a date with that whore of a ring post..

                Look at Margarito when Mosley ***ed his life... Why do you think Pac fought Marg? Marg certainly wasn't "too good"... You don't have to like or dislike left overs but Cotto, Hatton and Margarito where certainly damaged left overs and Pac fought both them AFTER the fact.
                I am perfectly Okay with saying so and so fought someone coming off losses. But "leftovers" is bull.

                For example, Margarito got KO'd by Mosley, came back and fought Pac, looked AWFUL. Margarito was not a left over, he was a past prime fighter coming off a KO loss.

                I just don't like using "leftovers" in boxing discussions. And hey, we're both Floyd fans here, I think we can agree on a few things.

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                  #148
                  Originally posted by PACsmash
                  if floyd do fight cotto at 154 why didnt he fight martinez at 154? why say 150 for serg??
                  Again, this displays how much of an idiot you are. Sergio said HE would fight Floyd (or Pac) at 150...

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                    #149
                    Originally posted by WindyCity05
                    lmfao if this is true Floyd is going to fight Pacquiao's leftovers.
                    Since Pacquiao's leftovers have more balls to face Mayweather, and they don't have "5 month cuts to heal" or they're not building an imaginary stadium

                    You might be correct, Mayweather is facing Pac's leftovers, which originally was a Margarito's leftover, previous Cotto-Pacquiao.

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                      #150
                      Originally posted by jrosales13
                      Exactly, and the point stylistically Cotto doesn't have a chance against Floyd. And, it doesn't matter at what weight they fight in. 147-154 Cotto chance of winning is 0%.
                      Are you kidding me ? 0% I mean i know Mayweather has the superior boxing skills but boxing is'nt a play its not like the script is written or anything . Anything can happen.

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