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  • GRUSTLER
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    #91
    Originally posted by thoughtsss
    Just because he back peddled against Shane doesnt mean he would have against Floyd. Floyd is a softy and Cotto back then would have been a big problem for Floyd.
    Shane lost to Cotto because he tried to outbox Cotto in the first half but Cotto was fresher. Cotto could never beat Floyd. Cotto's jab would have been an issue for like 4 rounds and then later in the fight as Cotto got weaker and Floyd got stronger. Cotto would have gotten thrashed in my opinion. whenever Cotto went up against anyone who was able to take his power away from him he either edged by or got beat. Cotto's been rocked, wobbled or stunned in almost every big fight he was in. Floyd was/is too accurate for Cotto AND Floyd adjusts on spot. Cotto has problems from a technical standpoint and gets discouraged and can't adjust.
    Last edited by GRUSTLER; 01-22-2012, 08:13 PM.

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      #92
      Originally posted by Einstien
      I agree that Floyd would win but not as easy as you make it out. Ortiz is overly aggressive and has no defense also cannot fight going backwards. Cotto on the other hand fights well going forward or backing up and has better defense.
      ??? Have you ever watched Miguel Cotto fight? Cotto has no defense and does not fight well backing up. If that was the case then Margarito would not have thrashed him (plaster or not). He didn't even know how to fight or adjust against Margarito in his prime.

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        #93
        Originally posted by PRking718
        Dude, who is elite to you? Cotto wipes the floor with ANYONE at 154. Martinez is a big ***** who trying to fight smaller guys and will get spanked by Cotto too my man. Have you seen how low he keeps his hands, and Cotto's powerful, stiff straight jab? He catches that man all day if Sergio can make weight I welcome that fight. Is elite only Pac and May? THat's ridiculous. Elite is top ten at least. And Cotto beats most of the top ten if not all of the top ten at 154. Be real.
        Are you implying Martinez is no competition for Cotto? You sir are beyond delusional. Oh and one big difference that just popped in my mind, Martinez has Stamina for 12 rounds and some to spare, Cotto has stamina for 7-8 rounds at most.

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          #94
          Originally posted by TehRedRanger
          Are you implying Martinez is no competition for Cotto? You sir are beyond delusional. Oh and one big difference that just popped in my mind, Martinez has Stamina for 12 rounds and some to spare, Cotto has stamina for 7-8 rounds at most.
          Martinez would murk Cotto.

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            #95
            Originally posted by GRUSTLER
            Martinez would murk Cotto.
            Just like he 'murked' Barker. Cotto cant fight going backwards? Did you watch his last fight?

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              #96
              Originally posted by GRUSTLER
              ??? Have you ever watched Miguel Cotto fight? Cotto has no defense and does not fight well backing up. If that was the case then Margarito would not have thrashed him (plaster or not). He didn't even know how to fight or adjust against Margarito in his prime.
              The question is have YOU ever seen Cotto fight? Cotto lost to Cheato because of relentless pressure and cuz he didnt stay on off the ropes...BUT YOU MUST BE KIDDING IN SAYING COTTO CANNOT FIGHT GOING BACKWARDS.

              He has a highlight reel on Cheato 1 and 2 alone, of him tagging Cheato going backwards.
              and whats your real point...most in here have admitted that Floyd beats Cotto but its no cake walk....and you had the AWFUL comparison of Cotto to Ortiz CMON!

              Maybe you should use Floyd vs Mosley as a better comparison because at least it was a boxers chess match, not a crazy young aggressive fighter recklessly coming forward.(Ortiz)

              Cotto can box and he has proved that on many occasions including with Shane.

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                #97
                Originally posted by thoughtsss
                Just like he 'murked' Barker. Cotto cant fight going backwards? Did you watch his last fight?
                This guy is nuts..first he compare Cotto to Ortiz and then he says Cotto cant fight backwards..lol

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                  #98
                  Originally posted by Einstien
                  The question is have YOU ever seen Cotto fight? Cotto lost to Cheato because of relentless pressure and cuz he didnt stay on off the ropes...BUT YOU MUST BE KIDDING IN SAYING COTTO CANNOT FIGHT GOING BACKWARDS.

                  He has a highlight reel on Cheato 1 and 2 alone, of him tagging Cheato going backwards.
                  and whats your real point...most in here have admitted that Floyd beats Cotto but its no cake walk....and you had the AWFUL comparison of Cotto to Ortiz CMON!

                  Maybe you should use Floyd vs Mosley as a better comparison because at least it was a boxers chess match, not a crazy young aggressive fighter recklessly coming forward.(Ortiz)

                  Cotto can box and he has proved that on many occasions including with Shane.
                  Cotto was on his bicycle against Margarito and the second half of the Mosley fight. That should not be denied. Cotto is not a technical fighter at all because if that was the case then he would have been able to adjust and beat Margarito in the first fight (plaster or not) Cotto has always relied on his pressure and took numerous punches to the chin and dome. Cotto earned my respect because of his attitude but I have been watching him fight since 140 and he has always made the same mistakes. If he can't hurt a fighter he is in panic mode. I'm happy that he beat Margarito in the rematch but Cotto should have whupped his ass in the first fight. Cotto could not even land his signature body punch on Margarito because Cotto can't adjust under pressure or adversity. Cotto out boxed Shane and won a close decision some debate (I think he edged it) but no way does he out box or keep up with Floyd in my opinion. Floyd already has ring generalship, stamina and the technical aspect of the game over Cotto. People give Floyd not too much credit as a boxer. Sure he is a b!tch ass douche in the media but dude made good fighters look worthless in the ring. Cotto gets whupped back then and now. You don't have to agree but that's how I feel about the match up.
                  Last edited by GRUSTLER; 01-22-2012, 08:50 PM.

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                    #99
                    Originally posted by Einstien
                    This guy is nuts..first he compare Cotto to Ortiz and then he says Cotto cant fight backwards..lol
                    Did you ever read me compare Cotto to Ortiz?

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                      #100
                      Originally posted by GRUSTLER
                      Cotto was on his bicycle against Margarito and the second half of the Mosley fight. That should not be denied. Cotto is not a technical fighter at all because if that was the case then he would have been able to adjust and beat Margarito in the first fight (plaster or not) Cotto has always relied on his pressure and took numerous punches to the chin and dome. Cotto earned my respect because of his attitude but I have been watching him fight since 140 and he has always made the same mistakes. If he can't hurt a fighter he is in panic mode. I'm happy that he beat Margarito in the rematch but Cotto should have whupped his ass in the first fight. Cotto could not even land his signature body punch on Margarito because Cotto can't adjust under pressure or adversity. Cotto outboxed Shane and won a close decision some debate (I think he edged it) but no way does he out box or keep up with Floyd in my opinion. Floyd already has ring generalship, stamina and he technical aspect of the game over Cotto. People give Floyd not too much credit as a boxer. Sure he is a b!tch ass douche in the media but dude made good fighters look worthless in the ring. Cotto gets whupped back then and now. You don't have to agree but that's how I feel about the match up.
                      I think you on super debate mode because I already said TWICE that I believe Floyd would beat him.
                      Your the one who questions his boxing skill yet say he outboxed Shane (which is no easy task)....and now you throw in that he cant handle adversity Yet Cotto has been dropped numerous time and has got up to win.....I WOULD SAY THAT IS HANDLING ADVERSITY AND HE OBVIOUSLY ADJUSTED ENOUGH TO WIN.

                      Having only a loss to Manny Pacquiao and an avenged loss to Cheato makes him a good fighter that is no push over to ANY fighter.

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