Do people overreact when Floyd is on the ropes???

[4Corners]

Just hear me out.

It seems everytime an opponent of his gets him on the ropes, people overreact and say Floyd looke dlike s**t, or the announcer goes crazy insane. Just look back at when Floyd fought Oscar at 154. Oscar got Floyd on the ropes a few times a round in that fight, and the announcer was going crazy, even though he was only landing a few punches total. There's one point in that fight, and you can it in the Mayweather-De La Hoya highlights, where Oscar has Floyd on the ropes and throws left hooks to his body and Lampley goes crazy saying "There's a sustained body attack from De La Hoya", but they all landed on Floyd's wasteline on the trunks. But they acted as if Oscar was killing Floyd. Also, I must remind you that Floyd out landed Oscar by over 100 punches in that fight and they ruled it a SD. How in the world was that a SD???????

Also, in Floyd's latest fight against Ortiz, the announcers and posters on this site, did the same. There was a moment in the 4th round where Victor got Floyd on the ropes and landed about 3 clean shots on Floyd and missed the rest, but Lampley goes ape s**t and yells "Ortiz is ripping Mayweather on the ropes!!!", but Floyd comes back and hits him with a few more jabs and right hands, says nothing. Then, in the flurry before the headbutt, Ortiz landed 2 punches, maybe you could argue a 3rd landed, and everyone got all crazy again. All the while, Floyd has landed 25 punches to 9 for Ortiz in the entire round, in what people say was Ortiz' "best round".

And because Mayweather took a few shots from Ortiz and because Ortiz got him on the ropes a few times in the fight (Ortiz did weigh 164 lbs that night), people want to say Floyd looked like s**t, Victor was in the fight and was ripping him on the ropes. Even though, Floyd was on pace to land 219 punches in that fight, where as Ortiz was on pace to landed only 78, at 18%, around the same average Floyd has had the past 4-5 years or so. But still, Floyd looked like s**t because Victor got him on the ropes and was walking through his punches. Floyd was pikcing his shots, walking him down about 75-80% of the time, out working Ortiz, hitting him with jabs, hooks, and AT WILL with his right hands. People also want to say "Floyd only landed 35% of his punches, he's usually in the 40's at least". Floyd also jabbed a lot more in that fight, just look at Floyd's power punches.

Maybe just maybe, a young-prime fighter, presented a challenge to a past prime-still good Floyd. Just look back at the Hatton fight. Hatton was a come forward, agressive fighter, got Floyd on the ropes a lot in that fight, and Floyd had to clinch A LOT in that fight. People to this day still say "Floyd struggled big time with Hatton, he's not all that". Mind you, Floyd was up 89-81, 89-81, and 88-82 when he KO'd Hatton.

So, do people overreact when Floyd's opponent's get him on the ropes????

P.S.: Floyd landed 49% of his power shots, and people were running around yelling "Floyd was off those first few rounds". Just something to think about.

[GrandpaBernard]

Just hear me out.

It seems everytime an opponent of his gets him on the ropes, people overreact and say Floyd looke dlike s**t, or the announcer goes crazy insane. Just look back at when Floyd fought Oscar at 154. Oscar got Floyd on the ropes a few times a round in that fight, and the announcer was going crazy, even though he was only landing a few punches total. There's one point in that fight, and you can it in the Mayweather-De La Hoya highlights, where Oscar has Floyd on the ropes and throws left hooks to his body and Lampley goes crazy saying "There's a sustained body attack from De La Hoya", but they all landed on Floyd's wasteline on the trunks. But they acted as if Oscar was killing Floyd. Also, I must remind you that Floyd out landed Oscar by over 100 punches in that fight and they ruled it a SD. How in the world was that a SD???????

Also, in Floyd's latest fight against Ortiz, the announcers and posters on this site, did the same. There was a moment in the 4th round where Victor got Floyd on the ropes and landed about 3 clean shots on Floyd and missed the rest, but Lampley goes ape s**t and yells "Ortiz is ripping Mayweather on the ropes!!!", but Floyd comes back and hits him with a few more jabs and right hands, says nothing. Then, in the flurry before the headbutt, Ortiz landed 2 punches, maybe you could argue a 3rd landed, and everyone got all crazy again. All the while, Floyd has landed 25 punches to 9 for Ortiz in the entire round, in what people say was Ortiz' "best round".

And because Mayweather took a few shots from Ortiz and because Ortiz got him on the ropes a few times in the fight (Ortiz did weigh 164 lbs that night), people want to say Floyd looked like s**t, Victor was in the fight and was ripping him on the ropes. Even though, Floyd was on pace to land 219 punches in that fight, where as Ortiz was on pace to landed only 78, at 18%, around the same average Floyd has had the past 4-5 years or so. But still, Floyd looked like s**t because Victor got him on the ropes and was walking through his punches. Floyd was pikcing his shots, walking him down about 75-80% of the time, out working Ortiz, hitting him with jabs, hooks, and AT WILL with his right hands. People also want to say "Floyd only landed 35% of his punches, he's usually in the 40's at least". Floyd also jabbed a lot more in that fight, just look at Floyd's power punches.

So, do people overreact when Floyd's opponent's get him on the ropes????

P.S.: Floyd landed 49% of his power shots, and people were running around yelling "Floyd was off those first few rounds". Just something to think about.

Yes, they do. Floyd landed his most hurtful punches against Oscar when he was against the ropes. There was that right hand to the jaw that buckled Oscar, and the bodyshots.

Floyd didn't do as much when he was on the ropes against Ortiz.

Most people don't know what they're watching anyways. Many times Mayweather purposely lures opponents to the ropes, since he's great at fighting off them.

[GrandpaBernard]

P.S.: Floyd landed 49% of his power shots, and people were running around yelling "Floyd was off those first few rounds". Just something to think about.

for sure corns

Floyd's power punch connects tell the story.

We can see below in the next 3 photos that Floyd was focused on landing his power shots, mostly the right, and was using the jab to measure and check. Jabs that are for measuring and checking are not meant to land, so they do not increase compubox connects.






Floyd uses his jab in this next one to bait Ortiz and create an opening for the right. It obviously isn't going to be counted as a landed punch.




As we can see the focus wasn't to land the jab but use it to make way for the right. He easily landed the jab when it was appropriate, see him land 3 in a row at 2:39 of round 3.

Floyd's measuring and checking brought his jab connects down which lowered his overall connect.

[4Corners]

Yes, they do. Floyd landed his most hurtful punches against Oscar when he was against the ropes. There was that right hand to the jaw that buckled Oscar, and the bodyshots.

Floyd didn't do as much when he was on the ropes against Ortiz.

Most people don't know what they're watching anyways. Many times Mayweather purposely lures opponents to the ropes, since he's great at fighting off them.

At the end of the 2nd round, Victor had Floyd on the ropes, came in fast and Floyd popped him with a hard right hand cross as Ortiz was coming in.

People just think that when Floyd hit's his opponents all round lands over 20 punches, and then his opponent lands 8-9 punches and gets him on the ropes once or twice for about 10-15 seconds, that his opponent won the round. It's funny.

[baya]

yes, yes they do. this was demonstrated to me during the fight against philip ndou where he had floyd on the ropes for a good portion of the time - i was in bar and everyone was going crazy with what they perceived as ndou beating floyd up while i found myself in awe that floyd was hardly even touched at all. when floyd's on the ropes - his D is at his best.

[GrandpaBernard]

At the end of the 2nd round, Victor had Floyd on the ropes, came in fast and Floyd popped him with a hard right hand cross as Ortiz was coming in.

People just think that when Floyd hit's his opponents all round lands over 20 punches, and then his opponent lands 8-9 punches and gets him on the ropes once or twice for about 10-15 seconds, that his opponent won the round. It's funny.

great punch it was. It killed the misconceptions that Floyd can't do his shoulder roll and counter right against southpaw lefts that many fans had before the fight.

[KingTito]

They absolutely do. Maybe because they think it's a rare time that Floyd can get hit.

[Biolink]

They do. This is a case of them disliking Floyd so much that they will willingly choose what they want to see, rather than what actually happened. I expect casual fans to go crazy over that kind of stuff, but not hardcore fans who consider boxing a hobby.

[raf727]

its an entertainment business bro, lampley and the rest freak out because thats what gets ratings. gotta keep em interested man, its a business not a sport, get real.

[#1Assassin]

ofcourse they do. its common knowledge having your back up against the ropes is a terrible position to be in, so alot of ppl automaticly assume when a fighter is against the ropes hes losing the fight.

then you have guys like floyd and toney who can fight just as well of the ropes as anywhere else in the ring, so when they have their back to the ropes they might not necessarily be doing poorly yet fans assume that they are. they assume their oponent is in control, landing punches and winning the fight even if thats not the case.