Why is floyd so overrated on these forums?

[Team Vitaminas]

Oh please this bull**** past prime, dehydrated are nothing more but excuses that this fighter's overzelous fans, and Pac's haters come up with after getting their fighters humiliated by Pac.

The point is in almost all of Pac fights, Pac was either the underdog, or the fight was either 50/50, this includes Pac biggest win against DelaHoya, Hatton, Barrera, JMM, MAB, Cotto, and Morales.. You dont see posters here whining when those fights were made... Maybe their rematches (like Pac-JMM III, MAB-Pac II, and EM-Pac III), but all the first and second fights were a toss up.. That's how you defined a fighter's legacy, moron.. The rest are just balony simply because they either want to downgrade Pac's victory to lift Floyd's, or they just got too embarrased because they were talkin too much crap when those fights were made...

And please, the only time Floyd fought a P4P top 5 fighter was when he fought Mosley, and I give him credit for that... JMM win was a ****ing joke..Pac was P4P#1 when he fought Oscar, had Oscar won that fight, Oscar would have never gotten any credit for that win... In fact, people were already labeling him b!tch for taking on Pac to begin with...

Wtf ? How do you wanna argue with your bs but ignor the facts? You're not a boxing fan bro, you're a grouppie! Lmao.

[straightleft]

Pac's legacy comes from him climbing weight classes wchich is amazing, BUT, He did it while fighting washed up fighters who were either weightdrained, over the hill, or coming off losses...I mean he ducked shane, and only fought him coming off a loss, and a draw...he ducked marquez and only fought him when he was 40 and still loss...fought margarito when he was washed up, oscar was washed up, he gets credit for cotto in my opinion, but morales was coming off a mismatch loss....Floyd always fights #1,2,3...and he's so good, that he beats them badly, and everyone says how it was a bum afterward cuz he makes it looks so easy....Floyd is an amazing fighter, but Pac really hasnt fought anybody in their prime yet...and look what Floyd did to Ortiz...Freddie said Ortiz used to beat the crap out of pac when he weighed 155, and roach had to break it up when they sparred...Floyd chased Ortiz around the ring when he weighed 164...Pac has legacy from climbing weight classes but fighting old washed up damaged fighters...Floyd's legacy is from fighting the best and beating them so bad, making it look so easy, that they look like amateurs ...and he's still undefeated....I gotta give it to Mayweather cuz thats never been done in the history of boxing

Your an idiot sir if you really believed in your own story. The only weight drained fighter did Pacquiao fought was Oscar but then Pacquiao jumped 3 weight classes as well. Cotto just moved down 1 lb from his last fight with 4 months to safely shred those extra lb while Pac moved up to welterweight to fight the bigger man. Margarito is a career welterweight and most of his fights were in welterweight. By fighting Pacquiao at 150 is good for Margarito. The fact that he was 17 lbs heavier than Pacquiao during the fight helped him a lot.

[mikemurni]

Wtf ? How do you wanna argue with your bs but ignor the facts? You're not a boxing fan bro, you're a grouppie!

And you're a moron.. You cant argue because you dont know how to argue... And lol on facts.. since when did you know about facts, you only joined this forum to be on Floyd's bandwagon...

[Team Vitaminas]

And you're a moron.. You cant argue because you dont know how to argue... And lol on facts.. since when did you know about facts, you only joined this forum to be on Floyd's bandwagon...

Facts are facts , it's on you to disprove them groupie. I don't need to argue with groupies but I'll discuss boxing anytime with another boxing fan.Truth is I don't really like Floyd as a person but have respect for his boxing skills, he don't need help from his promoter to win fights "Fact".

[White_Knight]

Lets face it he almost gets knocked out by mosley

I've never seen that. I have seen Pacquiao get knocked out on more than one occasion, but I've never seen Mayweather nearly knocked out. Come to think of it, I've never even seen him knocked down.

brings marquez up 2 weight classes to fight him

Yes, and even though Pacquiao had three opportunities, including one where Marquez was 38, he never came close to beating Marquez as convincingly as Mayweather did. In fact, many believe Pacquiao lost a couple of these fights, including the one where Marquez was 38.

[MurkaMan]

Oh please this bull**** past prime, dehydrated are nothing more but excuses that this fighter's overzelous fans, and Pac's haters come up with after getting their fighters humiliated by Pac.

The point is in almost all of Pac fights, Pac was either the underdog, or the fight was either 50/50, this includes Pac biggest win against DelaHoya, Hatton, Barrera, JMM, MAB, Cotto, and Morales.. You dont see posters here whining when those fights were made... Maybe their rematches (like Pac-JMM III, MAB-Pac II, and EM-Pac III), but all the first and second fights were a toss up.. That's how you defined a fighter's legacy, moron.. The rest are just balony simply because they either want to downgrade Pac's victory to lift Floyd's, or they just got too embarrased because they were talkin too much crap when those fights were made...

And please, the only time Floyd fought a P4P top 5 fighter was when he fought Mosley, and I give him credit for that... JMM win was a ****ing joke..Pac was P4P#1 when he fought Oscar, had Oscar won that fight, Oscar would have never gotten any credit for that win... In fact, people were already labeling him b!tch for taking on Pac to begin with...

Man please Ortiz was #2 even...My opinions on Manny have nothing to do with my opinions on Floyd...Floyd is just that good that he can make elite fighters look like crap...Pac is a great fighter, but everytime he fights, his fights come with an explanation.."Well we have to fight Mosley cuz Floyd wont fight us....well we Berto is a small draw...well marquez is old, fat and slow but we are running out of people to fight"...NO ONE see's pac as a guy who beat top opponents at their best...and ur talking about betting odds and him being an underdog?...What does that have to do with these washed up azz bums?...Pac was only an underdog cuz of his SIZE disadvantage...but the fact is, he was fighting clowns...and excuse me if I said anything about being weightsrained...if I did I take that back...manny steward once did an interview which shed light on it....because pac is so small, he needs these weight stipulations so he and his opponents can weigh the same on fight night...but I think cotto shouldnt have been weight drained...pac could have made the weight, and they even tried to drain Floyd after they fought oscar at ww...the fact is Pac is with arum...ALLLL Of arum's incompetent fighters fight bums...chavez jr, pac...ALL of his big name fighters have there legacies tarnished with back to back trash fights...This is just a fact...no need to get mad about it...it is what it is...But Floyd has great legacy...and he beat em all without a scratch or a hassle....his toughest fight with hatton, and Floyd rose to the occasion and KO'd the guy....one hassle out of 42 fights?..42 champions?...SRL got hit a million times by Duran..LMAO...Duran aint landing a damn thing on Floyd...Floyd's name is in there with the greatests and u guys have to stop hating and give props where its due....most legitimate boxing fans see Pacman as a hypejob..flash guilded with pretty promotion...They make fun of him...NO one has ever called Floyd a hypejob...they always say he's the real deal and that he's the purist boxer

[MurkaMan]

Your an idiot sir if you really believed in your own story. The only weight drained fighter did Pacquiao fought was Oscar but then Pacquiao jumped 3 weight classes as well. Cotto just moved down 1 lb from his last fight with 4 months to safely shred those extra lb while Pac moved up to welterweight to fight the bigger man. Margarito is a career welterweight and most of his fights were in welterweight. By fighting Pacquiao at 150 is good for Margarito. The fact that he was 17 lbs heavier than Pacquiao during the fight helped him a lot.

Margarito was super super damaged, destroyed by mosley(who pac didnt want to fight), he had a hand wrapping scandal that revealed he didnt have any actual punching power, he then fought a bum in mexico, and went on a layoff before fighting pac...I dont care about him being a career ww...he was a superduper bum, and shouldnt have been in the ring with an elite fighter

[mikemurni]

Facts are facts , it's on you to disprove them groupie. I don't need to argue with groupies but I'll discuss boxing anytime with another boxing fan.Truth is I don't really like Floyd as a person but have respect for his boxing skills, he don't need help from his promoter to win fights "Fact".

You are not a boxing fan.. You're a ***** groupie.. The fact that you joined this forum during the time when the failed Pac-Floyd fight discussion already proves my point.

Its really laughable when you talk about facts, wherein you were never here to begin with to talk about boxing with posters except when you want to smell Floyd's fart...

[mikemurni]

Man please Ortiz was #2 even...My opinions on Manny have nothing to do with my opinions on Floyd...Floyd is just that good that he can make elite fighters look like crap...Pac is a great fighter, but everytime he fights, his fights come with an explanation.."Well we have to fight Mosley cuz Floyd wont fight us....well we Berto is a small draw...well marquez is old, fat and slow but we are running out of people to fight"...NO ONE see's pac as a guy who beat top opponents at their best...and ur talking about betting odds and him being an underdog?...What does that have to do with these washed up azz bums?...Pac was only an underdog cuz of his SIZE disadvantage...but the fact is, he was fighting clowns...and excuse me if I said anything about being weightsrained...if I did I take that back...manny steward once did an interview which shed light on it....because pac is so small, he needs these weight stipulations so he and his opponents can weigh the same on fight night...but I think cotto shouldnt have been weight drained...pac could have made the weight, and they even tried to drain Floyd after they fought oscar at ww...the fact is Pac is with arum...ALLLL Of arum's incompetent fighters fight bums...chavez jr, pac...ALL of his big name fighters have there legacies tarnished with back to back trash fights...This is just a fact...no need to get mad about it...it is what it is...But Floyd has great legacy...and he beat em all without a scratch or a hassle....his toughest fight with hatton, and Floyd rose to the occasion and KO'd the guy....one hassle out of 42 fights?..42 champions?...SRL got hit a million times by Duran..LMAO...Duran aint landing a damn thing on Floyd...Floyd's name is in there with the greatests and u guys have to stop hating and give props where its due....most legitimate boxing fans see Pacman as a hypejob..flash guilded with pretty promotion...They make fun of him...NO one has ever called Floyd a hypejob...they always say he's the real deal and that he's the purist boxer

Pac fought Morales when he was P4P# 4, and 7 in the first and second fight respectively.. Pac fought Hatton when he was in the top 10 P4P list... Pac fought Barrera when he was P4P #3. Pac fought Cotto when he was in the P4P list as well.. Pac fought JMM when he was in the P4P list on all 3 fights (although I dont really count the 3rd)... Those are elite fighters, the fact that you are on that list makes you an elite fighter to begin with, and in all those fights the odds were at least 50/50..

Now Floyd.. fought some elite fighters too like Mosley, Hatton , Corrales, and Castillo, and Hernandez.. But Pac has fought more. The rest are either just contenders that had no business sharing the ring with him to begin with...

C'mon, is this even up for discussion, Pac's accomplishment in the last decade were unanimously decided by most of media that covered the sport.. And Floyd's accomplishment this decade really didn't have any major difference to what Pac had done this decade either...

[MurkaMan]

Pac fought Morales when he was P4P# 4, and 7 in the first and second fight respectively.. Pac fought Hatton when he was in the top 10 P4P list... Pac fought Barrera when he was P4P #3. Pac fought Cotto when he was in the P4P list as well.. Pac fought JMM when he was in the P4P list on all 3 fights (although I dont really count the 3rd)... Those are elite fighters, the fact that you are on that list makes you an elite fighter to begin with, and in all those fights the odds were at least 50/50..

Now Floyd.. fought some elite fighters too like Mosley, Hatton , Corrales, and Castillo, and Hernandez.. But Pac has fought more. The rest are either just contenders that had no business sharing the ring with him to begin with...

C'mon, is this even up for discussion, Pac's accomplishment in the last decade were unanimously decided by most of media that covered the sport.. And Floyd's accomplishment this decade really didn't have any major difference to what Pac had done this decade either...

Pac fought morales and LOST...And he only beat him, when he came off a mismatch loss to zahir..LOL...pac fought hatton when he was washed up and damaged...we all know that...LOL...pac fought barrera...yea yea...he fought cotto which I gave him credit for, but he only fought him cuz FREDDIE said cotto wasnt the same anymore, and they would not have fought him if he was in his prime...Pac fought JMM, And struggled everytime(talk about guys pac fought at there best, and beat at there best bro....ur losing the debate)...and again, ur talking about the odds...what do the odds have to do with them being bums?...he was underdog most time, because of his SIZE disadvantage only...and u say Floyd fought contenders who shouldnt have been in the ring with him..boy NO ONE should be in the ring with him cuz he's gonna make ANYONE look foolish(this is what makes him amazing...this is what makes his legacy...get my point?), Boy EVERYONE Pac fought shouldnt have been in the ring with him cuz they were washed up...most of his fights shouldnt have even happened....he shouldnt have even fought clottey...he shouldnt have even fought Mosley at all...all of these were money fights, not legacy fights bro...these were fights meant to help the "guild of pacman"..he shouldnt have even fought Marquez, cuz marquez was old as hell and coming off a one yr layoff...I thought marquez was gonna get KO'd so bad he was gonna die in the hospital the nxt day..Pac had no punching power in that fight...and u say Pac's accomplishments where decided by the media?...thats cuz the media was biased and letting him get away with ruining boxing by robbing the fans blind with his back to back trash fights....everyone so nice and merciful on pacman cuz he is nice stand up guy....but the guy is everything thats wrong with the sport...stealing ppv money with these trash azz fights...he will have either a bumfight, or a badfight...clottey, mosley=bad fights that hurt boxing...the rest of his fights where bumfights that WHERE entertaining, but did nothing for his legacy...like I said before, Pac's legacy comes from CLIMBING WEIGHT CLASSES which was amazing...but nothing else....Floyd is doing what no fighter in HISTORY has ever done....remained unbeaten, un scratched, while fighting top guys and making it look easy...NO fighter has ever made it look that easy and remained unbeaten in the process...Floyd is special...he's a child prodigy...I hate to sound like a ***ryder, but honmestly as a boxing fan, I feel blessed to live in this era just to WITNESS Mayweather...My grandkids will NEVER see anything this special and u have to get with the program and stop trying to discredit him just cuz u think he's brash, guady azzhole