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I am a solid pacfan and would support any of his fights but if the fight is not at 154 why make it?
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Actually, he is, he probably has more options than anyone.Originally posted by borikua View PostComment
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he would still get TKO's at any weight Cotto is too slow and gets hit way too much and his boxing skills is not great. please don't confuse Margo with PacOriginally posted by Bushbaby View PostComment
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bro what disadvantage your talking? cotto weigh in at 146 one fight before pac 145 was not really a stretch, imho even @ 154 results would be the same...Originally posted by LeadUppercut View Post
and I could only think of two better opponents floyd and marquez that pac should fight and question cotto fight if it is not made at 154Comment
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Bradley is the other option.Originally posted by JOM'S View Post
Miguel Cotto.....
When Pacquiao fought Cotto, Miguel had just been destroyed by Margarito and then battered by Clottey. EVERY reputable trainer/reporter/analyst said that Cotto looked shop-worn and well-faded, and that he had been in too many wars.
Cotto was not on top of his game, he had begun to slide, he had no trainer to speak of, and was struggling with problems both in camp and at home relating to a family matter that affected his relationship with head trainer Evan Cotto.
Miguel was not on top of his game, and he most certainly was not in his prime..... plus, Pacquiao tried to drain him on the scales.
Listen to this reporter's take on the subject, shortly after the Clottey fight....
"I wasn’t exactly shocked to see Manny Pacquiao’s name being linked for a fight with Miguel Cotto after the Puerto Rican fighters disappointing performance last Saturday night against Joshua Clottey. As bad as Cotto looked in the fight, and believe me Cotto looked pretty awful, it seemed like a no brainer that Pacquiao would then select him as his next opponent.
But my question is why isn’t Pacquiao going after Shane Mosley or Paul Williams instead? Why the emphasis at fighting Cotto, when he was destroyed by Antonio Margarito last year? It seems to me the much better choice for Pacquiao would be to go after Mosley, since he beat Margarito a few months ago by a 9th round TKO.
Since Margarito has already stopped Cotto, the logical choice for Pacquiao to fight would be Mosley. That’s the bout that Pacquiao should be going after unless he wants to be considered a cherry picker."
Pacquiao saw that Cotto was ripe, so he jumped on him, but even the fact that Cotto had faded was not enough of an advantage for Manny..... so he demanded a catch-weight of 145lbs.
A catch-weight, for a title fight..... *** me, that is lame
Cotto of course, flatly refused. Miguel stated "147 if you want my title, but no-title if you need a catchweight". Of course, Pac demanded a catchweight and the title, it became a sticking point to get the fight made, so Cotto was forced to concede.
But even that was not enough for Manny, he demanded 143, even though his trainer Freddie Roach agreed to 144. Luckily for Miguel he stuck to his guns, or those cherry-picking ****s would have dragged him down to 143lbs.....
http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/275865
Catch-weights.....
There are only two reasons to demand a catch-weight.....
1.) you are not good enough to compete with your opponent at his natural weight
2.) you are attempting to drain your opponent to gain an unfair advantage
Pacquiao tried to drain Cotto, because Manny had already fought at 147.
The 143lb demand was an absolute joke, they really tried to do a number on Cotto. Just because the bullet missed, does not lessen the intent.Comment
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JOM, what if I was to take this position..... ?Originally posted by JOM'S View Post
" Pacquiao could never have beaten Cotto at 147 "
You disagree ?
Then explain to me why Manny would not fight Cotto at 147 ?Comment
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Pathetic, straight up Pathetic. That tells you a LOT about Pacquiao and his team. His championships has been cherry picked, and they talk about Mayweather??
Cotto wen't down in weight to fight Pac, yet Pac can't do the same? This is ridiculous.
And I see people talking about how Cotto weighed 146 vs Clottey, but Cotto didn't look great in that fight either.
Pacquiao can fight Margarito @ a higher weightclass because they knew he can still easily beat him because of his relentless flush and speed. Yet to fight someone like Cotto they dismiss the case because they know he will be a dangerous threat and WILL beat Pac.
I remember when in boxing the best fought the best to prove they were the best without taking away anything from the other fighter. Nowadays they will try to do whatEVER it takes for the other fighter to have the full advantage.
PATHETIC.
Floyd come whoop this boy's ass!!!Comment
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IF the result would be the same, then why the **** are they saying that they will not make the fight higher than 147? Do you even think before you post? How does that sound when you read it out loud? You make no sense at all!!!Originally posted by JOM'S View PostComment
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Could not have said it any better bro. Everything is there CLEARLY. If anyone disputes what is said here then they MUST seriously lack COMMON SENSE and have some sort of mental disorder.Originally posted by LeadUppercut View PostBradley is the other option.
Miguel Cotto.....
When Pacquiao fought Cotto, Miguel had just been destroyed by Margarito and then battered by Clottey. EVERY reputable trainer/reporter/analyst said that Cotto looked shop-worn and well-faded, and that he had been in too many wars.
Cotto was not on top of his game, he had begun to slide, he had no trainer to speak of, and was struggling with problems both in camp and at home relating to a family matter that affected his relationship with head trainer Evan Cotto.
Miguel was not on top of his game, and he most certainly was not in his prime..... plus, Pacquiao tried to drain him on the scales.
Listen to this reporter's take on the subject, shortly after the Clottey fight....
"I wasn’t exactly shocked to see Manny Pacquiao’s name being linked for a fight with Miguel Cotto after the Puerto Rican fighters disappointing performance last Saturday night against Joshua Clottey. As bad as Cotto looked in the fight, and believe me Cotto looked pretty awful, it seemed like a no brainer that Pacquiao would then select him as his next opponent.
But my question is why isn’t Pacquiao going after Shane Mosley or Paul Williams instead? Why the emphasis at fighting Cotto, when he was destroyed by Antonio Margarito last year? It seems to me the much better choice for Pacquiao would be to go after Mosley, since he beat Margarito a few months ago by a 9th round TKO.
Since Margarito has already stopped Cotto, the logical choice for Pacquiao to fight would be Mosley. That’s the bout that Pacquiao should be going after unless he wants to be considered a cherry picker."
Pacquiao saw that Cotto was ripe, so he jumped on him, but even the fact that Cotto had faded was not enough of an advantage for Manny..... so he demanded a catch-weight of 145lbs.
A catch-weight, for a title fight..... *** me, that is lame
Cotto of course, flatly refused. Miguel stated "147 if you want my title, but no-title if you need a catchweight". Of course, Pac demanded a catchweight and the title, it became a sticking point to get the fight made, so Cotto was forced to concede.
But even that was not enough for Manny, he demanded 143, even though his trainer Freddie Roach agreed to 144. Luckily for Miguel he stuck to his guns, or those cherry-picking ****s would have dragged him down to 143lbs.....
http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/275865
Catch-weights.....
There are only two reasons to demand a catch-weight.....
1.) you are not good enough to compete with your opponent at his natural weight
2.) you are attempting to drain your opponent to gain an unfair advantage
Pacquiao tried to drain Cotto, because Manny had already fought at 147.
The 143lb demand was an absolute joke, they really tried to do a number on Cotto. Just because the bullet missed, does not lessen the intent.Comment
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