Abraham-Farias, Stieglitz-Weber. SemiOFFICIAL RBR and discussion thread.

[turbotime]

Johnson isn't much of a workhorse nowadays. He is an old man who needs to retire. Abraham would probably win a very ugly and dull decision in Germany.

Johnson took Froch to the limit. Not a workhorse

[Bierstadt]

glen johnson would ANNIHILATE arthur abraham

there's no way abraham would win a round

he hardly throws punches
and the stuff he would throw wouldn't impress the judges enough to earn him rounds against a workhorse like johnson

Nobody's doubting a points win for Johnson. That's a foregone conclusion. Abraham's power is always a wildcard, and out of all the top guys at 168, Glen's the oldest/slowest, and hasn't shied away from taking punches. Abraham couldn't land on Froch, the very few times he did it visibly bothered him. Froch is much more agile than Glen. Abraham could barely land on Ward, when he did it definitely bothered Ward, all of which was in the beginning of the fight when Ward was fresh. Glen's nowhere close to the defensive wiz Ward is. Arthur didn't land much later in the fight against Ward. He would land on Johnson.

[TheGreatA]

Johnson took Froch to the limit. Not a workhorse

Which he followed up by looking awful against Bute.

[New England]

Johnson isn't much of a workhorse nowadays. He is an old man who needs to retire. Abraham would probably win a very ugly and dull decision in Germany.

he's certainly slowed but he comes forward and throws lots of punches

dont go off the bute fight, man
that guy is a sharpshooter with serious thunder in his hands.
and he's a counterpuncher with athletic feet and height.

abraham really couldnt fight any different


sure, he might get jobbed, but on a sound card he is not losing that fight

[turbotime]

Nobody's doubting a points win for Johnson. That's a foregone conclusion. Abraham's power is always a wildcard, and out of all the top guys at 168, Glen's the oldest/slowest, and hasn't shied away from taking punches. Abraham couldn't land on Froch, the very few times he did it visibly bothered him. Froch is much more agile than Glen. Abraham could barely land on Ward, when he did it definitely bothered Ward, all of which was in the beginning of the fight when Ward was fresh. Glen's nowhere close to the defensive wiz Ward is. Arthur didn't land much later in the fight against Ward. He would land on Johnson.

I think Bute, Cloud, Tarver, Dawson are all bigger punchers than Abraham is. Johnson took those punches easily. Abraham's power is pretty overrated. Took him 12 to get washed up Taylor out of there and he was hitting him a ton.

Johnson wins going away, even in germany.

[New England]

Which he followed up by looking awful against Bute.

styles

and fights

[turbotime]

Which he followed up by looking awful against Bute.

He and Bute are pals, that was nothing more than a sparring match.

[TheGreatA]

I doubt Abraham could knock out even a 43 year old Glen Johnson. I just find it difficult to believe that he would get the nod over Abraham considering his track record when it comes to winning and losing decisions on the opponents' hometowns.

Abraham if nothing else will be throwing those sloppy but powerful combinations which Johnson covers up from and it will look good enough for the judges over the steady but unspectacular work of the older man.

[turbotime]

I doubt Abraham could knock out even a 43 year old Glen Johnson. I just find it difficult to believe that he would get the nod over Abraham considering his track record when it comes to winning and losing decisions on the opponents' hometowns.

Abraham if nothing else will be throwing those sloppy but powerful combinations which Johnson covers up from and it will look good enough for the judges over the steady but unspectacular work of the older man.

Abraham throws those sloppy combos maybe once every two rounds. His outpout is pathettttic.

[TheGreatA]

styles

and fights

We should also recognize then that Johnson doesn't really fight the way Ward, Dirrell or even Froch do. He is there to be hit, and every round that he gets hit in, is going to be scored against him. We've seen enough of these type of fights where the unspectacular workhorse loses an ugly decision against the hometown hero to know what the deal is.

I'd hate to see Johnson get "jobbed" out against a fighter of Abraham's calibre at this stage and would prefer not to see it happen. He shouldn't go on as a stepping stone against fighters he could have very well beaten a few years back.