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  • turbotime
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    #51
    Originally posted by Bierstadt
    Dangerous for his health. Glen actually eats some punches, and while Abraham would probably lose he'd have enough chances at a KO. Though Johnson is a tough chinned sob.
    Abraham isn't stopping Johnson. He would lose on output alone. He needs badly to move down to 160 and fight the c level guys there.

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      #52
      Originally posted by BattlingNelson
      He looked slower (if possible) than earlier.

      His best asset has always been the power and he carries it all the way to the final bell.



      my question then becomes "who cares?"

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        #53
        Originally posted by turbotime
        Farrias is B level? lol
        Perhaps C, if we actually had official alphabet ratings.

        What would you classify Miranda as then? To be fair Abraham's only lost to the best of the best.

        I'm not making him out to be the greatest fighter, not even close. But his biggest asset - power, will always make up for all his other shortcomings against lesser opponents.

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          #54
          Originally posted by New England
          my question then becomes "who cares?"
          Touché!!

          Still I'd like to see a Dirrell rematch.

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            #55
            Originally posted by Bierstadt
            Dangerous for his health. Glen actually eats some punches, and while Abraham would probably lose he'd have enough chances at a KO. Though Johnson is a tough chinned sob.


            glen johnson would ANNIHILATE arthur abraham

            there's no way abraham would win a round

            he hardly throws punches
            and the stuff he would throw wouldn't impress the judges enough to earn him rounds against a workhorse like johnson

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              #56
              Originally posted by Bierstadt
              Perhaps C, if we actually had official alphabet ratings.

              What would you classify Miranda as then? To be fair Abraham's only lost to the best of the best.

              I'm not making him out to be the greatest fighter, not even close. But his biggest asset - power, will always make up for all his other shortcomings against lesser opponents.
              Abraham himself is B level. Ferras is C maybe even D level. Miranda is a C leveller to the max. Ward, Froch, Bute, Kess are the A levellers.

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                #57
                Originally posted by BattlingNelson
                Touché!!

                Still I'd like to see a Dirrell rematch.


                while it lasted that was an interesting fight, especially down the stretch


                dirrell should merk him, though, this time around

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                  #58
                  I don't see Abraham winning another title in his career as long as he stays at 168 lbs (unless he gets to fight Balzsay or Stieglitz). He would be a nice addition to the middleweight division but it doesn't seem like he can make the weight any longer.

                  I guess it would be somewhat interesting to see Abraham fight Kelly Pavlik, even if over 3 years too late.

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by New England
                    glen johnson would ANNIHILATE arthur abraham

                    there's no way abraham would win a round

                    he hardly throws punches
                    and the stuff he would throw wouldn't impress the judges enough to earn him rounds against a workhorse like johnson
                    No kidding. Johnson has been hit by bigger fighters than Abraham.

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by New England
                      glen johnson would ANNIHILATE arthur abraham

                      there's no way abraham would win a round

                      he hardly throws punches
                      and the stuff he would throw wouldn't impress the judges enough to earn him rounds against a workhorse like johnson
                      Johnson isn't much of a workhorse nowadays. He is an old man who needs to retire. Abraham would probably win a very ugly and dull decision in Germany.

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