Would you favour any Heavyweight in the history of boxing to beat Prime Ali?

[joseph5620]

DO you really think Byrd would have had such success against an uninjured Vitali? Really?

Prime Ali lost to Frazier. I'm not sure why this is even a thread.

Ali was not in his prime when he lost to Frazier. And I'm going to assume you either know better or you're just lying. Coming off a near four year layoff and fighting a total of 18 rounds in almost 4 years does that too you. Ali's legs were not the same during his comeback. And that's obvious to anyone who chooses not to be blindly delusional.

Vitali was not injured the entire fight and at NO time was he having an easy time with Bryd. Vitali also lost to a past prime Lennox Lewis. What's your excuse for that one? If Lennox didn't hit Vitali it would have been different? Vitali has never beaten an ATG fighter and lost to the only one he faced. But you think he would "easily" beat prime Ali?


That goes beyond delusion and Klitschko worshipping.

[SCtrojansbaby]

I would favor Larry Holmes. Not to sure about Ali vs Wlad that is such an interesting matchup.

[PureBoxingCEO]

No doubt, Dempsey, Marciano and Vitali would beat prime Ali

[Devotobox]

Vitali would beat Ali down.

[Mr. Invincible]

Ali was not in his prime when he lost to Frazier. And I'm going to assume you either know better or you're just lying. Coming off a near four year layoff and fighting a total of 18 rounds in almost 4 years does that too you. Ali's legs were not the same during his comeback. And that's obvious to anyone who chooses not to be blindly delusional.

Vitali was not injured the entire fight and at NO time was he having an easy time with Bryd. Vitali also lost to a past prime Lennox Lewis. What's your excuse for that one? If Lennox didn't hit Vitali it would have been different? Vitali has never beaten an ATG fighter and lost to the only one he faced. But you think he would "easily" beat prime Ali?


That goes beyond delusion and Klitschko worshipping.

Is being 31 years of age not still prime? Especially considering Ali went on to do great things after that loss. If you classify Ali's pre short retirement form, that's what should have been discussed since that's what you consider his 'prime'.

Next, Vitali was injured early in that fight and it gradually got worse. This certainly effected his performance. Chris Byrd was very good defensively in his prime but nowhere near Ali obviously but I happen to think with Vitali's skillset and size, he would get to and stop Ali barring an injury or a cut.

Lastly, Vitali tore Vitali up in that fight and you know it. If you don't, go watch the fight again, look at the punch stats and then look at the score cards. Vitali lost by a cut from an unlucky occurence. Barring that, he beats the daunting ATG Lennox Lewis.

(ps.....i favor Lennox over Ali as well)

[Miburo]

Foreman absolutely could beat Ali with better conditioning/pacing. Cutting off the ring takes Ali's greatest strengths away from him, and Foreman was the best at it, hence Ali's abandonment of the fight plan in Zaire.

[Canelo Phresh]

yeah joe frazier.

[D4thincarnation]

Foreman absolutely could beat Ali with better conditioning/pacing. Cutting off the ring takes Ali's greatest strengths away from him, and Foreman was the best at it, hence Ali's abandonment of the fight plan in Zaire.

Foreman was in his prime and Ali past his best and Ali still beat him.

Did you see the Rumble in the Jungle?

Foreman had Ali against the rope for a lot of the fight.

A prime Ali Liston's Foreman.

[joseph5620]

Is being 31 years of age not still prime? Especially considering Ali went on to do great things after that loss. If you classify Ali's pre short retirement form, that's what should have been discussed since that's what you consider his 'prime'.

Next, Vitali was injured early in that fight and it gradually got worse. This certainly effected his performance. Chris Byrd was very good defensively in his prime but nowhere near Ali obviously but I happen to think with Vitali's skillset and size, he would get to and stop Ali barring an injury or a cut.

Lastly, Vitali tore Vitali up in that fight and you know it. If you don't, go watch the fight again, look at the punch stats and then look at the score cards. Vitali lost by a cut from an unlucky occurence. Barring that, he beats the daunting ATG Lennox Lewis.

(ps.....i favor Lennox over Ali as well)

Age is not the issue. Some fighters are past their prime in their 20's. Fernando Vargas? Mike Tyson? You can't look at Ali in the 60's and Ali in the 70's and claim he was as good in the 70's with any credibility. Foreman had one of his biggest wins at 45. Hopkins did in his 40's. Ray Robinson at 37.. Big wins do not automatically mean prime.


I'm not going to argue with you anymore about Vitali's losses. They are what they are and anybody can look up the video's and see it for themselves.

[boxingking500]

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