Comments Thread For: Gamboa vs Rios Plan To Be Determined Very Soon

[Eaner0919]

Thanks for heads up, E.

I wish I could read an info as reliable as this from the Gamboa side.

NP he's been back in the gym for about two weeks

[Phantomas]

who? name names I know ALL OF THEM.

he had a bad camp, **** happens, like I said before you came in with your misinformation, Brandon will stay at 135 if it's Gamboa, if not he moves up

you wanna know how I know? I don't talk to guys who know guys who heard of guys who train with Brandon. I talk to Brandon literally everyday

there's no point to stay at 135 unless it's Gamboa. He initially wanted to unify with Linares because of what Roach was saying but when Linares lost that all kind of went away

I don´t remember, probably it was you lol. I think you said he was pretty bad. And García said Rios was moving up after that fight, I think he knows Rios better than you and knows what is better for him. So Rios taking the Gamboa fight is a case of obedience whether you like it or not, if you work for Arum you know you have to cooperate and show self disposition. Rios wouldn´t let Arum know he is afraid of a catch-weight against Gamboa.

[brick wall]

what you're not realizing is that Gamboa himself wants pacquiao. he wants a big payday. He's called out pacquiao after his fights the last few times now. Arum certainly can't force gamboa to move up to 135 or 140 pounds, not if gamboa didn't want to.

Gamboa could keep fighting at 126 or 130 if he wanted to. But again, Gamboa wants a big payday, he wants to be on a PPV, he wants to fight pacquiao, he wants to be a star. He wont get any of that at 126/130 (I'm not arguing if it's the smart thing to do, I'm just saying what gamboa wants).

gamboa has that crazy confidence of a undefeated fighter. he probably thinks he can do it because pac did it before and he considers himself more skilled than pac. or he got carried away by solis' comments that he hits harder than pac.

[Eaner0919]

I don´t remember, probably it was you lol. I think you said he was pretty bad. And García said Rios was moving up after that fight, I think he knows Rios better than you and knows what is better for him. So Rios taking the Gamboa fight is a case of obedience whether you like it or not, if you work for Arum you know you have to cooperate and show self disposition. Rios wouldn´t let Arum know he is afraid of a catch-weight against Gamboa.

Actually Garcia is on the side that thinks Brandon can make 135 still

Myself and his assistant have our doubts and want to see him at 140.

so yeah wrong again

and no I don't work for TR

[Phantomas]

Phantomas has no clue and is misinformed, no offense.

The truth is Arum DOESN'T want Gamboa to become a star. He only signed him to control his career and not allow him to fight his cash cows. That's why you won't see Donaire or Mikey against Gamboa, never. He also thought Juanma was the truth and wanted to create a nemesis for him in Gamboa, to create a rivalry and eventually "feed" Gamboa to Juanma. Obviously, his plan failed big time. Gamboa happened to be a King and Juanma was a fraud as some of us called long time ago.

That's also why Gamboa never got the big fights he wanted and was forced to fight bums (Mtagwa, Garcia, etc.), because Arum wanted the big names for Juanma's resume. He's now trying to build up the undefeated mexican Rios, who can become a VERY profitable cash cow, so he wants to sacrifice the "little" Gamboa who has a name to make Rios bigger in the game. Arum thinks Gamboa will lose, that's why he's making this fight. In case Gamboa wins, it wouldn't be a total loss because he could then "feed" Gamboa to Pacman as an "easy" opponent. On the other side, Gamboa is happy with it because his goal is Pacman and he sees Rios as a ladder to reach him.

I think it is true that Arum signed Gamboa to keep him away from the cash cows but I also think that Arum wont miss a chance to bump up the valor of Gamboa, because I think that Arum actually sees more potential and has more faith in Gamboa. Arum probably thinks like many other here that Rios will fail against bigger and better boxers in higher weight divisions and his success wont last long... so he is trying to save some value from Rios to put it on the better boxer Gamboa.

[CubanGuyNYC]

gamboa has that crazy confidence of a undefeated fighter. he probably thinks he can do it because pac did it before and he considers himself more skilled than pac. or he got carried away by solis' comments that he hits harder than pac.

I recall reading something in a book on Cuban sports where they said that Cuban amateur boxers spar one another regardless of weight class. There was a session cited where a lower weight class guy (I forget who) was pretty bloody after sparring three-time Olympic heavyweight gold medalist Felix Savon. Perhaps this is where Gamboa gets his chutzpah. Sparring much bigger men from time to time (and having awesome ability) tends to give one great self-confidence. Yuri's gonna need it, 'cause Brandon's a beast.

[puga]

very ballsy move by gamboa....b1tch move by rios....did'nt rios also call out barrera?....

[CubanGuyNYC]

Actually Garcia is on the side that thinks Brandon can make 135 still

Myself and his assistant have our doubts and want to see him at 140.

so yeah wrong again

and no I don't work for TR

I don't think it's ever good when a fighter has to struggle to make weight. It's just too weakening. Even when done right, a fighter is teetering dangerously between "ready" and drained. In my opinion, it's too much to ask of the human body to continuously be brought to the brink (the weigh-in) and the fight (re-hydration).

I'm approximately as tall as Brandon, and I get absolutely shredded at 160. Although I carry more muscle mass than Rios, I couldn't imagine a man his height and frame coming down to 135 and expect to be at maximum strength for long.

[Eaner0919]

I don't think it's ever good when a fighter has to struggle to make weight. It's just too weakening. Even when done right, a fighter is teetering dangerously between "ready" and drained. In my opinion, it's too much to ask of the human body to continuously be brought to the brink (the weigh-in) and the fight (re-hydration).

I'm approximately as tall as Brandon, and I get absolutely shredded at 160. Although I carry more muscle mass than Rios, I couldn't imagine a man his height and frame coming down to 135 and expect to be at maximum strength for long.

well the train of thought is that he hadn't really been using people like nutritionists and conditioning coaches and still making 135 (albeit a struggle) they're going to give a shot and see what transpires.

The Acosta and Antillon fights were good solid camps where he had little issue making weight. Lowther and Murray were awful

[Ringlife]

I see them fighting on the same night just not against each other.