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How much credit will Floyd get for a Cotto fight May 5th and who do you have winning.

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  • #51
    Originally posted by jrosales13 View Post
    If you can't get Pac. Because, Pac doesn't want to man up and duck him. Then go offer Macklin some step aside money and make a fight with Martinez at whatever weight.

    Or don't even postpone your jail sentence and just go to jail.

    But, Cotto has a fan base and they like anything Cotto does. Floyd has a fan base and they like anything Floyd does. So it is what it is.
    totally agree with this. i dont want to see Cotto take this beating. Fight Martinez.

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    • #52
      Originally posted by jrosales13 View Post
      No one is underrating anything. You're just going off by reputation more than anything. Cotto hasn't proven anything recently. I'm sorry beating shot to pieces fighters like Mayorga and Margarito means nothing when matching him up against elite level fighters. But, whatever if you like the fight fine.

      If it was HBO I could live with it. Knowing that they going to charge is 60 bucks makes it whack. But, whatever I don't care I won't pay for it. You will it just a matter of preference that's all.
      exactly many boxing fans ignore WHEN fight happened

      its all about the brand to them

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      • #53
        I'm not at all excited about the possibility of a Mayweather-Cotto fight. I've been saying this for a while now, actually. As a fan, I'm pretty pissed about alot of crap that has been happening with the sport and the two biggest stars.

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        • #54
          The only logical fight for Floyd now is an immediate rematch with Ortiz to prove to the world he can beat Ortiz without resorting to cheating.

          Knowing Floyd, he will duck Ortiz and pretend it never happened.

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          • #55
            Originally posted by jrosales13 View Post
            It's not ridiculous at all. You act like that hasn't happen but whatever. And, it wouldn't even be Floyd paying the step aside money either. Macklin is promoted by Dibella he would easily work something out. If Floyd really wanted to fight Martinez that is.

            But, like I said fan bases like whatever their fighters does so it is what it is.

            It's better than the Alvarez fight. But, still whack. Shouldn't have postpone the jail sentence. Should have just went to jail and probably would have had better options later in the fall.
            theres no proof of someone being payed step aside money.........only speculation on boxingscene.com.

            the thing is when creating a bout. the venue is set, the network is set, the rules & regulations are set. the pay between both fighters is set. TRAINING is set. network pay, promoters pay, judges pay. set........so only paying 1 individual is ignorant thoughts. many people involved with that date would have to be payed step aside money.........not just macklin. also. most fighters won't even accept step aside money if they are training & prepared themselves for the task at hand.

            it's kinda RIDICULOUS when you actually sit down and analyze it.

            martinez is obviously tied up.......arum pac. no, not happening........


            you can say that the fight sucks (i have no problem with that) but when you try to argue that there are better fights out there then cotto (taking away martinez & pac) you just make yourself look silly & almost trollish............
            Last edited by americanbot; 01-08-2012, 12:07 AM.

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            • #56
              i think its a **** fight as well. but hey, at least ill get to see cotto fans shut up on may 5th. yayyy!

              but really, im panning this fight. but there arent many options out there rite now for floyd so its hard to blame him. jro said use step aside money for macklin to fight serg, which would be nice, but i dont see it happening.

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              • #57
                Originally posted by Revilo View Post
                The only logical fight for Floyd now is an immediate rematch with Ortiz to prove to the world he can beat Ortiz without resorting to cheating.

                Knowing Floyd, he will duck Ortiz and pretend it never happened.
                oh great, now floyd is ducking ortiz.

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by yesir View Post
                  totally agree with this. i dont want to see Cotto take this beating. Fight Martinez.
                  Originally posted by GrandpaBernard View Post
                  exactly many boxing fans ignore WHEN fight happened

                  its all about the brand to them
                  I understand boxing is a business. Floyd is a brand, Cotto is a name fighter. So in a business sense is a fight that makes money. I get that

                  But, as a boxing fan that will be charge x amount of dollars to watch this. It's whack...

                  The only thing that makes Cotto a legit opponent right now is his name and reputation. But, in reality recently he hasn't done much. His last 2 fights were against shot to pieces fighters who were not even top 20 JMW let alone top 10 JMW in Mayorga and Margarito.

                  I'm happy for him that he beat Margarito, I know he wanted that win really bad. And, it was a redemption win. But, should that be enough to say he's a legit opponent for the likes of Floyd, Pac, and/or Martinez? I don't think so.

                  Maybe if he beat a Kirkland or a Berto-Ortiz winner or even a Bradley or hell even a Alvarez or JCC JR winner. You know someone in the top 10 of the division. Then I could be OK with such a match up. But, he hasn't done that in what will be 2 years.

                  But, people hear the name Cotto so they go by reputation and automatically thinks it's OK. I guess.

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by DempseyRollin View Post
                    i think its a **** fight as well. but hey, at least ill get to see cotto fans shut up on may 5th. yayyy!

                    but really, im panning this fight. but there arent many options out there rite now for floyd so its hard to blame him. jro said use step aside money for macklin to fight serg, which would be nice, but i dont see it happening.
                    Of course it's not happening. But, it should...It would be much better than this BS.

                    I do agree the only good thing that can come out of it is that it will shut the Cotto fans up. But, the bad thing is that the extremist Floyd fans will act like it's a good win and be annoying about the outcome.

                    But, at least we get rid off one annoying fan base in the mean time.

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by jrosales13 View Post
                      No one is underrating anything. You're just going off by reputation more than anything. Cotto hasn't proven anything recently. I'm sorry beating shot to pieces fighters like Mayorga and Margarito means nothing when matching him up against elite level fighters. But, whatever if you like the fight fine.

                      If it was HBO I could live with it. Knowing that they going to charge is 60 bucks makes it whack. But, whatever I don't care I won't pay for it. You will it just a matter of preference that's all.
                      YES YOU are underrating cotto if you asking for the berto vs ortiz winner over cotto @ 154. (which is my post that you're responding to)

                      mayweather already beat ortiz..........berto is so overrated that it's a big fraud at this point. even mayorga is a better win then anything berto has done for the past 2 years.



                      cotto vs mayweather better then the winner of berto vs ortiz 2...........


                      SORRY BRO.

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