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    #21
    Originally posted by etlux
    It can be argued that 6'7 250lbs Wlad, with modern training techniques and nutrition is a far harder puncher than 6'4 220lbs Foreman. So yes Ali can get brutally KTFO by Wlad if he lands right
    Bigger Foreman in his comeback was not a harder punching Foreman. And 330 pound Valuev didn't punch as hard as 212 pound Haye. The size logic is flawed. Mainly when you're talking about fighters weighing 200 plus pounds.

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      #22
      Wow I am stunned at the credit the champ is actually getting for once.

      I would worry about Wladdy as a fan most against Foreman because of his not so undentable chin, Foreman's power and his ability to take a shot. Frazier pressuring a puncher like Wlad would get him KTFO.

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        #23
        Originally posted by Spray_resistant
        Wow I am stunned at the credit the champ is actually getting for once.

        I would worry about Wladdy as a fan most against Foreman because of his not so undentable chin, Foreman's power and his ability to take a shot. Frazier pressuring a puncher like Wlad would get him KTFO.
        I think you're underestimating Frazier's defence.
        I mean I can see a win for Wlad against Frazier however it's not as if Frazier will walk right into Wladimir.

        Watch this footage.

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          #24
          Originally posted by Barnburner
          I think you're underestimating Frazier's defence.
          I mean I can see a win for Wlad against Frazier however it's not as if Frazier will walk right into Wladimir.

          Watch this footage.

          Based on the full 1st rd I can say I do see some good defensive qualities but he was still hit quite alot before he is all over his man and there to be it. Keep in mind Wlad is one of the hardest punchers ever.

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            #25
            Originally posted by Spray_resistant
            Based on the full 1st rd I can say I do see some good defensive qualities but he was still hit quite alot before he is all over his man and there to be it. Keep in mind Wlad is one of the hardest punchers ever.
            I'm not making this **** up believe it or not but, Frazier lost the first round in a lot of bouts. He was a slow starter. One of the reasons Foreman decimated him so easily.

            Before anyone says, Wlad doesn't take enough risks to even contemplate taking the fight to Frazier like Foreman did and pulling a Foreman.

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              #26
              Originally posted by Barnburner
              I'm not making this **** up believe it or not but, Frazier lost the first round in a lot of bouts. He was a slow starter. One of the reasons Foreman decimated him so easily.

              Before anyone says, Wlad doesn't take enough risks to even contemplate taking the fight to Frazier like Foreman did and pulling a Foreman.
              I'll add that if you can hurt Chuvalo you can hurt any fighter in history.

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                #27
                Originally posted by joseph5620
                I'll add that if you can hurt Chuvalo you can hurt any fighter in history.
                He is some man that guy. Mental, Emotional, Physical toughness. The epitome.

                In both his personal life and the sport of boxing.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Barnburner
                  I'm not making this **** up believe it or not but, Frazier lost the first round in a lot of bouts. He was a slow starter. One of the reasons Foreman decimated him so easily.

                  Before anyone says, Wlad doesn't take enough risks to even contemplate taking the fight to Frazier like Foreman did and pulling a Foreman.

                  Foreman-Frazier was shocking to many.

                  Keep in mind, Frazier was undefeated and Foreman had him completely ****ed up and gone to god way early.

                  That was actually a huge shock to the public when it happened.

                  Frazier was the favorite in that fight.


                  I keep thinking I just can't see Wlad taking Foremans' thunder.

                  It just doesn't compute in my head that that could happen.

                  Foreman could lose rounds but if he got him once I imagine it would like the Sanders fight x 4.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Barnburner
                    He is some man that guy. Mental, Emotional, Physical toughness. The epitome.

                    In both his personal life and the sport of boxing.
                    Yes he is. I thought what he contributed to the Doc " facing Ali was amazing.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by jreckoning
                      Foreman-Frazier was shocking to many.

                      Keep in mind, Frazier was undefeated and Foreman had him completely ****ed up and gone to god way early.

                      That was actually a huge shock to the public when it happened.

                      Frazier was the favorite in that fight.


                      I keep thinking I just can't see Wlad taking Foremans' thunder.

                      It just doesn't compute in my head that that could happen.

                      Foreman could lose rounds but if he got him once I imagine it would like the Sanders fight x 4.
                      I was using it in context of Wlad vs Frazier. Rather than vs Foreman.

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