Vitaly and steroids

[BattlingNelson]

I am referring to that misuse.


so no i'm not lying, you are.

you still owe that apology, not that I want one.

What was it that proved Vitali as a roidabuser in his prime? I missed that bit.

[BattlingNelson]

How the hell did you guys manage to make this a 47 page thread?

We're talking about pro boxing where most are to be considered suspect. You'd leave a lot of money on the table not taking some kind of ped when so many does it. It would be very hard to compete against people of similar skill that are using peds.

We're also talking about a 240-250lb man of solid muscle who's 41 years old.

Do the math. Is he suspect of using? Yes! And so is almost every other heavyweight worth a damn.

I don't know how anyone can deny this without being a complete bumsniffer and mentally challenged.
I also don't understand the need to kick in open doors. Why is there not a thread like this about Hopkins? David Haye? Andre Ward?

Both sides are being silly, but that's just in my opinion. Feel free to red-K me.

I'm sure the mentally slow Jedi Vader is about to suspect André Ward since he is out with a shoulderinjury.

And of course he also gets help from PED convict Victor Conte, even though Ward denies it.

[DreamFighter]

What was it that proved Vitali as a roidabuser in his prime? I missed that bit.

I am not sure what conflicting info has been passed on whilst I have been away, but I was referring to the original time Vitali admitted to using them.

Its worth mentioning that I was mounting an argument that supports Vitali NOT taking steroids, at least not unduly. I wouldn't rule out PEDS of some sort in any fighter.

[BattlingNelson]

I am not sure what conflicting info has been passed on whilst I have been away, but I was referring to the original time Vitali admitted to using them.

Its worth mentioning that I was mounting an argument that supports Vitali NOT taking steroids, at least not unduly. I wouldn't rule out PEDS of some sort in any fighter.

He was hardly in his prime in 1996. This thread has put forth nothing of substance to the claim of Vitali having used PEDs in his professional career.

The only thing that is somewhat su****ious, is the fact that he is still beating contenders at an advanced age. It is worth noting however, that the very posters saying that is also saying that those contenders are bums when that is what fits the agenda.

[Weltschmerz]

he got older and thus fatter, not stronger. The guy was ALWAYS a Superheavy even as an Olympian.

He was KOing people when he was young better than when he was tko6ing them when he was old. .


Whereas prime Vitali, who possibly was on steroids (proven), still got tkoed in 6 versus old fat lewis.So yes there was definitely a WIDE gulf in class there, is that what you mean, mate?

I am not sure what conflicting info has been passed on whilst I have been away, but I was referring to the original time Vitali admitted to using them.

Its worth mentioning that I was mounting an argument that supports Vitali NOT taking steroids, at least not unduly. I wouldn't rule out PEDS of some sort in any fighter.

There's your original comment. You state that it's proven that prime Vitali was possibly on steroids. A proven possibility, in what way?

[DreamFighter]

There's your original comment. You state that it's proven that prime Vitali was possibly on steroids. A proven possibility, in what way?

no that's what the other dude wrote.

I said he was caught on steroids at some point for definite, and that case was proven. However I will retract the 'prime' comment because I have only just learned it was during his amateur years, my apologies for that. I understand he was 24, which is very nearly prime physically, but not quite.

I am not sure what this 'proven possibility' discussion is about, you have to take that up with whoever you are discussing it with.

[BattlingNelson]

There's your original comment. You state that it's proven that prime Vitali was possibly on steroids. A proven possibility, in what way?

It is also a proven possibility that Jedi Vader is a basketcase, that JAB is a 12 year old girl weighing 374 lbs and that dreamfighter is a monkey trained to push buttons.

[BattlingNelson]

no that's what the other dude wrote.

I said he was caught on steroids at some point for definite, and that case was proven.

I am not sure what this 'proven possibility' discussion is about, you have to take that up with whoever you are discussing it with.

It was you who said that.

[DreamFighter]

It was you who said that.

no, I've just told you it wasn't.

There is no other version of me on this forum, which one are you going to believe, me or the monkey version in your head?

You'll also have to take up your 'proven possibility argument' with the person you started it with.

[BattlingNelson]

no, I've just told you it wasn't.

There is no other version of me on this forum, which one are you going to believe, me or the monkey version in your head?

You'll also have to take up your 'proven possibility argument' with the person you started it with.

You wrote the bit below right?

Whereas prime Vitali, who possibly was on steroids (proven), still got tkoed in 6 versus old fat lewis.So yes there was definitely a WIDE gulf in class there, is that what you mean, mate?