Vitaly and steroids

[Simurgh]

My point is Vits has a history and his numerous injuries are consistent with steroid abuse. Im not convicting him, but like other fighters I've named there are very solid reasons to be su****ious.

Do you think Holyfield has used?

I can speculate but I rather won't.
The most of top ranked fighters (present and past) might used some form of enhancing drugs.

I surely don't think all of them do.
In my eyes they are all innocent till it's proven otherwise.

I can't play the game where I speculate. In that game they are all cheaters.
I can't enjoy the sport that way.

[JAB5239]

I can speculate but I rather won't.
The most of top ranked fighters (present and past) might used some form of enhancing drugs.

I surely don't think all of them do.
In my eyes they are all innocent till it's proven otherwise.

I can't play the game where I speculate. In that game they are all cheaters.
I can't enjoy the sport that way.

Most of them may have, I don't think anyone would deny that. But most don't have a history either.

[papillon82]

Im curious why the people who voted no think there is no possibility that Vits could not have used steroids inside his pro career given the reasons I've named in this thread. Anyone got some answers?

Maybe you just have an agenda against Vitali? What is it you don't like about him? His previous steroid incident has been explained fully already and it's friggin 17 yrs ago. Lay off.

[Escobedo]

I am a huge supporter of the Klitschko brothers, but to say there is no way they are using is ludicrous in this day and age of sports.

[JAB5239]

Maybe you just have an agenda against Vitali? What is it you don't like about him? His previous steroid incident has been explained fully already and it's friggin 17 yrs ago. Lay off.

The only thing I have against Vittles are his ridiculous fans who seek to massively overrate him in spite of losing his two biggest fights, never beating the best guy in the division, a weak resume and alas, steroids. You don't like that? So sorry. You bring your best reasons to the table and I'll bring mine. But don't think for a second I'll "lay off" because you or anyone else doesn't like my opinions or facts stated.

By the way, nice alt. "Leave Vitaly alone!"

[Joeyzagz]

I appreciate Jab for keeping this issue alive, but its the ducking of Haye that I find far more disturbing.

It is February 2013. Haye has been calling Vitali out since the Summer of 2012.

I mention February because Lennox waited till February of 2004 before he announced retirement and recieved hell for it, after being called out by Vitali the summer before.

[JAB5239]

I appreciate Jab for keeping this issue alive, but its the ducking of Haye that I find far more disturbing.

It is February 2013. Haye has been calling Vitali out since the Summer of 2012.

I mention February because Lennox waited till February of 2004 before he announced retirement and recieved hell for it, after being called out by Vitali the summer before.

That's another thing that irks me about many Klit fans, their never ending river of double standards.

[papillon82]

The only thing I have against Vittles are his ridiculous fans who seek to massively overrate him in spite of losing his two biggest fights, never beating the best guy in the division, a weak resume and alas, steroids. You don't like that? So sorry. You bring your best reasons to the table and I'll bring mine. But don't think for a second I'll "lay off" because you or anyone else doesn't like my opinions or facts stated.

By the way, nice alt. "Leave Vitaly alone!"

Yet you put him in a pink dress as if you're obsessed with him. You'r opinions are pretty wasted since you spend all of your loser time hating on a man you don't know. How does it feel *******?

[papillon82]

I appreciate Jab for keeping this issue alive, but its the ducking of Haye that I find far more disturbing.

It is February 2013. Haye has been calling Vitali out since the Summer of 2012.

I mention February because Lennox waited till February of 2004 before he announced retirement and recieved hell for it, after being called out by Vitali the summer before.

you're probably the biggest hypocrite ahole on boxingscene. Stop comparing Vitali-Lennox to the haye-Viatli situation. Get a life.

[JAB5239]

Yet you put him in a pink dress as if you're obsessed with him. You'r opinions are pretty wasted since you spend all of your loser time hating on a man you don't know. How does it feel *******?

What does a pink dress have to do with facts and opinions? Obviously you're not mature enough to get by the visual. Oh well, blame the bozo who put it there. I just fixed it up for entertainment purposes. Now if you don't have anything constructive to say...be gone.