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  • Superflo777
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    #211
    Originally posted by JAB5239
    Derrock Chisora says Vitaly is juicing. As a professional fighter wouldn't he have a better idea than the armchair warriors on the Klit cheerleading team?

    http://www.boxingscene.com/chisora-c...ace-off--48582
    If he'd really belive Vitali was juicing he'd refuse to fight him before intensive testing would happen.

    Keep hatin'

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    • JAB5239
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      #212
      Originally posted by TheGreatA
      TRT or testosterone replacement therapy is actually legal in the U.S. as long as you are granted permission and test around normal levels.

      Most older fighters benefit from its use, especially in MMA.
      Legal in general or legal by the boxing orgs and commissions?

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      • hogwash
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        #213
        Originally posted by JAB5239
        Derrock Chisora says Vitaly is juicing. As a professional fighter wouldn't he have a better idea than the armchair warriors on the Klit cheerleading team?

        http://www.boxingscene.com/chisora-c...ace-off--48582
        he said that to get a rise out of him

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        • TheGreatA
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          #214
          Steroid use can make you more prone to injuries due to the muscle growing faster than how your body can adapt to it.

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          • JAB5239
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            #215
            Originally posted by Superflo777
            If he'd really belive Vitali was juicing he'd refuse to fight him before intensive testing would happen.

            Keep hatin'

            Lol, says who? I don't particularly like Chisora's big mouth, but he doesn't strike me as the type to be afraid of any man under any circumstances.

            Now please answer the question. Would a guy in Chisora's position have a better idea if Vitaly was juicing than say someone like yourself?

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            • JAB5239
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              #216
              Originally posted by hogwash
              he said that to get a rise out of him
              Can you send the link where Chisora confirms this? If so I will delete my posts about his steroid accusations towards Vitaly.

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              • TheGreatA
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                #217
                Originally posted by JAB5239
                Legal in general or legal by the boxing orgs and commissions?
                Atleast the Nevada State Athletic Commission allows testosterone replacement therapy. MMA fighters such as Dan Henderson, Chael Sonnen, Nate Marquardt and Todd Duffee among others have benefited from its use.

                It's difficult for me to believe that some of those fighters legitimately suffer from a lack of testosterone to the point where they require medical assistance which is usually approved for older people or those naturally suffering from low testosterone.

                Todd Duffee (25 years old):



                Of course continual PED use can lead to a lack of natural production of testosterone, after which such therapy is required.
                Last edited by TheGreatA; 01-16-2012, 04:32 PM.

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                • JAB5239
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                  #218
                  Originally posted by TheGreatA
                  Atleast the Nevada State Athletic Commission allows testosterone replacement therapy. MMA fighters such as Dan Henderson, Chael Sonnen, Nate Marquardt and Todd Duffee among others have benefited from its use.

                  It's difficult for me to believe that some of those fighters legitimately suffer from a lack of testosterone to the point where they require medical assistance which is usually approved for older people or those naturally suffering from low testosterone.

                  Todd Duffee (26 years old):


                  In other words it is still cheating without a proper way to regulate it, no?

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                  • Superflo777
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                    #219
                    Originally posted by JAB5239
                    Lol, says who?
                    Any man with his right senses would refuse to fight a man of who he definitely knows is using steroids until long, intense testing had happened. Mayweather is refusing to fight Manny out of pure speculation that he's using roids. You really think Chisora would go on to fight Vitali if he would know for sure he is on something?

                    Originally posted by JAB5239
                    Now please answer the question. Would a guy in Chisora's position have a better idea if Vitaly was juicing than say someone like yourself?
                    I don't see why he would know any better than all of us here, unless he maybe had a mole infiltrated in Vitali's training camp or his (assumed) substance dealers. Chisora is accusing Vitali out of pure speculation, as are posters like you on this place. He isn't smarter than any of us.

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                    • TheGreatA
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                      #220
                      Originally posted by JAB5239

                      In other words it is still cheating without a proper way to regulate it, no?
                      It's basically a legalized way to benefit from PEDs as long as you ask permission and test normal levels by fight time.

                      Due to the cycling nature of steroids you can be well above normal levels prior to the testing procedure though and then drop down to normal levels as long as you are given enough time to prepare for the test. That's why you'd have to test fighters randomly at any given time to truly make it difficult for the users.

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