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My opinion, its a Trainer of the Year award, not a lifetime achievment or decade award, so it should be judged on what has happened this last year. Roach has done great things with Khan and Manny, but this last year wasn't really a shining year.
I'd give it to Roger if he had someone else making waves other than Floyd, Floyd only fought once this last year, so its tough to judge Rogers training off of just the one fight. Although, at Floyd's age he doesn't appear to be slipping....
So i just changed my mind while typing this, give it to roger, Y-The-F-Not
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Originally posted by s ip u ir s xii View Postroger is a moron who lives off floyds natural talent. A camp that claims to never watch film or tape of the other fighter is nothing more than a team thats living off physical abilities. Ariza can train anyone and get them into great shape, and so can a million other people. Only raging ultra jealous *****s think roger is great. This is rogers technical knowledge and boxing adjustments......
"just hit that mutha-****a"
"just box that mutha-****a"
"man he scared as a mutha-****a"
"he aint 5hit"
yay....i too can be a underrated trainer and have a legion of morons follow me.
x2..............
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Originally posted by tailchaser001 View Postx2..............
trains JMM who just school Paquiao again. Resurected the career of Jorge Arce who became a champion in two divisions 122 and 118 betting the guy who previously beat him to win the 118 pund title.
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Hate'em or love him, Mayweather Sr. has a point that should not be ignored.
Why hasn't Roger Mayweather ever received an award for training arguably the greatest fighter of this era? I think it's a valid question that people should seriously look at.
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Originally posted by DIB420 View PostMy opinion, its a Trainer of the Year award, not a lifetime achievment or decade award, so it should be judged on what has happened this last year. Roach has done great things with Khan and Manny, but this last year wasn't really a shining year.
I'd give it to Roger if he had someone else making waves other than Floyd, Floyd only fought once this last year, so its tough to judge Rogers training off of just the one fight. Although, at Floyd's age he doesn't appear to be slipping....
So i just changed my mind while typing this, give it to roger, Y-The-F-Not
roger & sr STILL dont touch roach... roach is 2/2 with pac... 2/3 with khan... 3/3 with JCC jr.... 1/2 with linares... OVERALL, not a bad year for roach. he DEFINITELY didnt finish strong, but he still had a solid year.
roger has floyd (1/1) & vargas (4/4)... and floyd sr. has been doing work with MMA fighters....
if people are willling to give the nod to roger for consistency, then i would think wlad/steward is more deserving (they actually defend their titles & fight more frequent).
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Originally posted by whoseyourdaddy View PostHow about Nacho Beristain he jut resurected the career of Jonny Gonzalez who pic up a belt in the process, undefeated sence he is with don "Nacho" KO all 11 oponents.
trains JMM who just school Paquiao again. Resurected the career of Jorge Arce who became a champion in two divisions 122 and 118 betting the guy who previously beat him to win the 118 pund title.
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Originally posted by Black Dynamite View PostHate'em or love him, Mayweather Sr. has a point that should not be ignored.
Why hasn't Roger Mayweather ever received an award for training arguably the greatest fighter of this era? I think it's a valid question that people should seriously look at.
robert garcia, nacho beristain, & emmanuel steward still rank above roger.... just because floyd is p4p doesnt equate roger being the best trainer. so youre telling me roger training floyd once a year is enough to get him the nod???? even his work with jesse vargas isnt that impressive (yet).
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Originally posted by waxfondler View Postnacho NEVER gets enough props. he is one of the most UNDERRATED but respected trainers around.
Don "Nacho" will not get it cause he is not trainning in the USA.
Wikipedia say he has 4 current Champions counting Juan Carlos Salgado.
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