Would Floyd Mayweather have any chance against Ray Robinson?

[Forza]

Nah that was the era where men where men and tougher than nails.
I think SRR would chase Mayweather down and put a hurt on him.

Gatti was tough as nails and he got destroyed. Tough only gets you so far...

[jrosales13]

I too hate how people overrate past fighter just because they did it first.

They act like as if no one will ever presently or in the future beat SRR. Like he was invincible or some ****.

If he was he wouldnt have been beaten.

Based on footages that i have seen, which is as much footage as anyone here on NSB have ever seen, He looks completely beatable.

People have truly been hoaxed into believing past greats are so great its disguisting.

IMO, Floyd beats SRR 6/10 times at a minimum. Im as familair with SRR as anyone else on this board, which is not much at all, given theyve seen as much footage as i have.

I would love to be proven wrong, as i too want to see SRR in the lwoer weight classes, after hearing all the hype. He also appears to be a great guy who everyone at the time admired, so i like him for that. But Floyd is just too skilled. He presents skills that just werent used back in the days. OO boy imma get flamed.

So until there are better unleaked footages out there kept in a safe of SRR, the stuff that are out that doesnt prove anything to me. Anything else is heresay.

BTW Hearns beat SRR.

BTW 2, im fine with people calling him the greatest because of what he has done and achieved, but the dude is sooo beatable.

One has to look when and how he was beaten though.

SRR lost only one fight in his 20's and in his first 135 fights. And, for that fight he weighed at the WW limit while his opponent weighed at the MW limit. And, he's opponent was just any opponent it was an ATG MW, ATG fighter period, HOF'er Jake Lamotta. That's the only fight Lamotta got over SRR, SRR then beat him numerous times.

They were skilled fighter like Floyd in that era, their were fighters who resembled had the same style as Floyd in that era.

[hugh grant]

Floyds pity paty punches wouldnt discourage SRR enough. SRR would just chase Floyd around the ring and hit Floyd and hit floyd some more.
Points decision for SRR at least.

[Cardinal Buck]

One has to look when and how he was beaten though.

SRR lost only one fight in his 20's and in his first 135 fights. And, for that fight he weighed at the WW limit while his opponent weighed at the MW limit. And, he's opponent was just any opponent it was an ATG MW, ATG fighter period, HOF'er Jake Lamotta. That's the only fight Lamotta got over SRR, SRR then beat him numerous times.

They were skilled fighter like Floyd in that era, their were fighters who resembled had the same style as Floyd in that era.

Without the Robinson fights, does LaMotta really count as an ATG? It's sort of like Micky Ward minus the Gatti fights.

[Oxn]

One has to look when and how he was beaten though.

SRR lost only one fight in his 20's and in his first 135 fights. And, for that fight he weighed at the WW limit while his opponent weighed at the MW limit. And, he's opponent was just any opponent it was an ATG MW, ATG fighter period, HOF'er Jake Lamotta. That's the only fight Lamotta got over SRR, SRR then beat him numerous times.

They were skilled fighter like Floyd in that era, their were fighters who resembled had the same style as Floyd in that era.

Look im not saying Floyd is unbeatable, hell i dont even like the guy but i recognize skills when i see it. Im picking Sergio to beat him afterall.

And of what i have seen of SRR, he is great, but when people say this top fighter cant even compete with him and so forth i just roll my eyes. They act like as if SRR was unhittable, and that he dominates every round back when he fought.

I dont think based on what the current generation of fans have seen of SRR, they can make a call of how great he was.

Unless im speaking with some 80year old boxing fan who have seen it all and seen SRR fought, and seen Floyd fought, without nostalgia googles on then i cant accept their take.

[The Gambler1981]

Like Charley Burley whom Ray Robinson had no interest in fighting~

Ray Robinson would consider it a risky fight point blank and would need proper compensation to take such a risk~ win or lose whatever this thread is talking about any chance, a much lower level guy has a chance and between two actually great fighters of course there is a chance on either side~

Who would I bet on I don't know depends on the odds~ if it is even money I doubt I would bet or just mess around.

[jrosales13]

Without the Robinson fights, does LaMotta really count as an ATG? It's sort of like Micky Ward minus the Gatti fights.

Is nothing like Ward-Gatti....Yes you even take SRR out of his resume and he still an ATG...Not as high as he's now but still ATG.

He had lots of good to great wins in his resume.

[SWEETSCIENCE100]

without the robinson fights, does lamotta really count as an atg? It's sort of like micky ward minus the gatti fights.

100% agreed!

[The Gambler1981]

Of course he would. SRR has lost to lesser fighters than Mayweather, but that doesn't mean anything. Ask yourself this though:

What would Mayweather's record look like after 200 pro fights? With some of those fights being against MW while fighting at WW.

I'm not trying to bash Floyd because I think he's great and I think he has a chance to beat anyone in history, but Floyd hasn't had a chance to fight the same caliber opponents as SRL and SRL, because the competition just wasnt available. Even if he would have fought Cotto and Marg it still wouldn't be enough to surpass those guys. I'm using them as an example because Floyd is often compared to them.

Well Floyd is smaller than Ray Robinson but I think if he had 150 fights from 130 to 140 I would think I could count his loses on one hand, and if I was betting over under on that I would take under. At 147 it gets a bit trickier because Floyd has good attributes but not overwhelming like below so catching some loses is much more likely.

This is talking guys he could have fought during his run and has a lot to do with them but still can only beat the guys out there. If there were some real high end ATG in those classes when Floyd fought, it would be a lot more tricky and difficult depending just on who and what those guys were.

[Cardinal Buck]

Is nothing like Ward-Gatti....Yes you even take SRR out of his resume and he still an ATG...Not as high as he's now but still ATG.

He had lots of good to great wins in his resume.

Examples? Just to be clear, I'm not saying he's on Ward's level. I'm saying his career is based on the Robinson fights the way that Ward's is based on the Gatti fights. Without those fights, there's something left, but it's sort of forgettable. He's really not that much of a standout without the SRR fights.