Comments Thread For: DiBella: Martinez Better Than Manny, Beats Mayweather

[GRUSTLER]

Sergio Martinez shouldn't even mention or pursue Manny Pacquiao because it is a pure mismatch on every level. Manny was built up to be great while Mayweather is great and Martinez is on his way to being great if he tells his promoters to stop trying to cash in and keep building him up. Skill wise alone Pac shouldn't be mentioned or put above Mayweather or Martinez.

[King Ju-Ju]

Being that Arum isn't going to throw Chavez to the wolves, I hope he works out something with Cotto to step in and fight Sergio. I would love to see him shut Dibella and Martinez up.

[PACsmash]

Mosley held back even when theres openings because PAC was faster and Mosley knew if he try there's a good chance he's gonna get counter which will lead to a very good chance of him getting ko'd!! In other word he had no heart didn't want to risk to gain so stop acting like u guys don't see this and stop it with the fight was fixed. Why would Mosley throw 1 fight with PAC away when if he could beat PAC which will get him more bigger fights after??? Makes no sense to throw a fight away when u have so much go gain if he would have beat manny!

[switchsouthpaw]

So Floyd picked and choose and made himself become the Lineal Champion of the WW division? Mosley was on his way out before Floyd but Margarito put him back in the loop and was actually viewed as a threat to Floyd at the time. Pac didn't get that same outlook when he fought Mosley.





That Mosley fight with Pac was B.S. I'm still feeling like it was crazy suspect how Mosley never even tried to fight back and at times had Pac wide open and held back his punches. So if Floyd is picking and chosen what has Pac been doing all of this time? You guys swear up and down that I'm defending Floyd and a ***** but I'm just the kind of guy who can't and don't cosign anything that ain't facts or common sense. Floyd went on vacation 2 times and he still was/is ranked higher than Manny Pacquiao AND fought the more regarded fighters.

Floyd could fight anyone and people would make some kind of excuse on why he is fighting them and why he won. Shane jumped in the ring after Marquez and called Floyd out and people said Floyd was scared to death to fight Shane and the minute he served Shane up, then Shane was gassed out and old. Pac gets him 2 fights later and all of a sudden Mosley was scared of Pac? Mosley wasn't running for dear life. It was Roach and Pac back in 09 after Shane KO'd Margarito, went to the Wild Card Gym and was begging Roach to fight Manny. Get out of here with the non sense homie. Pac has had the most protection in the whole sport of boxing.

Oh god, look there's no Illuminati, no one's a mason, and aliens didn't construct the pyramids. Conspiracy theories aside, Mosley, got his a$$ handed to him and was badly hurt. And what did he do once he was badly hurt? He ran...those are facts and are irrefutable.

Regardless of what prognosticators and/or psychics think might of happened that night, what I stated is exactly what actually occurred. Now to speak to your point regarding Mayweather and titles, here is how I approach that argument. Mayweather in his own words (not mine and not a conspiracy), said "I don't fight for titles, I fight for dollars."

Baldomir ehhh everyone knows he's a glorified journeyman fighter with a Disney story behind him. Mosley? Yes, Mosley was coming off a big win against the number one welter in the world, Margarito. However, based on what we've come to learn about Margarito, all of his prior history has been called into question and since that time he's gotten his a$$ whooped each and every time he's climbed into a ring. Mosley looked good against a man who was walking out of his locker room and was already shook, as he realized that his wraps had been confiscated (who knows what was going through his mind..guilt maybe?). That fight means nothing to me. Mosley underperformed against Mayorga, he was also beaten by Winky, so watching Floyd climb that mountain was nothing new. I'm not comparing Floyd to Pac, I've already stated Floyd is the best bar none. But Pac had Mosley in a bad way, more so than Floyd. Mayweather outboxed Hatton and knocked him out, fair play to him. Pac, obliterated him in 2 rounds. Mayweather, never fought Cotto,Margarito (prime version), prime Paul Williams, those are facts. If Mayweather won't fight Martinez or Pac, then he should retire.

[nycsmooth]

all hype talk and w/Pac never 2 happen...mega $$$ w/Floyd @ ''50 Floyd would tke him apart...ezy bout 4 FMM...

[switchsouthpaw]

Sergio Martinez shouldn't even mention or pursue Manny Pacquiao because it is a pure mismatch on every level. Manny was built up to be great while Mayweather is great and Martinez is on his way to being great if he tells his promoters to stop trying to cash in and keep building him up. Skill wise alone Pac shouldn't be mentioned or put above Mayweather or Martinez.

Skills vs achievements are two entirely different things. In other words, you can be blessed with all the talent in the world, and still not have the resume that Pac has. Is Mayweather the best skilled fighter in the world? YES. The names on Pac's resume also speak to a truly special fighter. Zab Judah was also incredibly talented...look how far that got him.

[nycsmooth]

Being that Arum isn't going to throw Chavez to the wolves, I hope he works out something with Cotto to step in and fight Sergio. I would love to see him shut Dibella and Martinez up.

good bout but Sergio would pick Cotto apart/gets hit 2 much/look @ last bout vs AM and the shots he took and he was swelling...easy UD 4 Sergio

[GRUSTLER]

Oh god, look there's no Illuminati, no one's a mason, and aliens didn't construct the pyramids. Conspiracy theories aside, Mosley, got his a$$ handed to him and was badly hurt. And what did he do once he was badly hurt? He ran...those are facts and are irrefutable.

Regardless of what prognosticators and/or psychics think might of happened that night, what I stated is exactly what actually occurred. Now to speak to your point regarding Mayweather and titles, here is how I approach that argument. Mayweather in his own words (not mine and not a conspiracy), said "I don't fight for titles, I fight for dollars."

Baldomir ehhh everyone knows he's a glorified journeyman fighter with a Disney story behind him. Mosley? Yes, Mosley was coming off a big win against the number one welter in the world, Margarito. However, based on what we've come to learn about Margarito, all of his prior history has been called into question and since that time he's gotten his a$$ whooped each and every time he's climbed into a ring. Mosley looked good against a man who was walking out of his locker room and was already shook, as he realized that his wraps had been confiscated (who knows what was going through his mind..guilt maybe?). That fight means nothing to me. Mosley underperformed against Mayorga, he was also beaten by Winky, so watching Floyd climb that mountain was nothing new. I'm not comparing Floyd to Pac, I've already stated Floyd is the best bar none. But Pac had Mosley in a bad way, more so than Floyd. Mayweather outboxed Hatton and knocked him out, fair play to him. Pac, obliterated him in 2 rounds. Mayweather, never fought Cotto,Margarito (prime version), prime Paul Williams, those are facts. If Mayweather won't fight Martinez or Pac, then he should retire.

I never said it was a conspiracy theory but looking at the Clottey and Mosley fights using what most call observation you would see that something was suspect but you don't have to believe it. Everything I posted is true and what happened but you still want to debate me using your own personal feelings. Cotto ducked Paul Williams and fought for his title vacantly against Michael Jennings. How can you give Pac props for beating Mosley and not Mayweather? Mayweather fought Mosley who was #1 at the time and KO'd Margarito while Pac openly ducked him through Roach. You keep saying how Pac beat all of the guys Floyd fought better AFTER Floyd but when Floyd fought them, they were physically and mentally better. I never made any excuses or downed Pac for Hatton or Oscar because I thought he would lose but lets be real. Oscar was a Zombie and Hatton had the worst training camp in Floyd Sr.

Lets get even realer. Cotto had a fight with his uncle and didn't even have proper training against Pac and was at a catch weight. Like you said. Margarito was exposed and Pac fought him at a catch weight for a vacant title (Martinez). If Pac was/is indeed that great then why Cotto at 145 and Margarito at 150? Oh... because he is too small right? Ok but he fought Oscar at 147 prior to Cotto. Floyd tried to fight Pac but Pac went to fight Clottey. You are on some other ****. You got the nerve to talk about conspiracies when you all up in Margarito's head telling me what he was thinking when he fought Mosley. Here you go with the "Floyd ducked Cotto and Margarito" prove it. I posted numerous times on here why them fights didn't happen at 147 and mainly it was because Arum didn't want to make the fight with Oscar for Floyd AND Arum hid Cotto at 140 from Floyd and I can prove all of this. Can you?

[Humperdink]

Yea, but he wont cut weight ,

basically theyre saying we can beat them as long as i weight more than you guys,

but i wont cut down in weight cause i know well lose

[bluetuazon]

How many lineal Champions has Pac fought at WW?

Ok ok ok, I'll make it easy. How many Champions has Pac fought at WW without a CW?

Ok ok sorry, I will make it even easier. How many Champions as Pac fought at WW?

JMW?

btw,
Floyd has fought and beat more lineal and current champions than Pac, his reign of supremacy is twice as long as Pac's, and he's never lost. Floyd also dismantled and shut down the last known fighter (JMM) to give Pacquiao a lot problems (at WW) to say the least.

Pac can't live off one CW fight vs Cotto back in 2009. lol

pac is the only boxer who has 4 lineal titles.......thank you very much!!