Comments Thread For: DiBella: Martinez Better Than Manny, Beats Mayweather

[Illdil]

Why is team martinez trying to sell their name by always mentioning these two guys?? cuz they know dam well they aint getting a fight with them so why keep mentioning them?? Sergio is the MW champ and if he cant get good pay days anymore at MW then they know damn well what to do. yes u guessed it right...MOVE THE F*** UP!!! SMW has alot of Big names and talents if he wants he can go challenge these guys but why wont he do this?? well if he aint gona fight Pirog there's no way in hell he fighting anyone at SMW.. idk team Martinez needs to make up their mind u want to make good money fighting at MW or u wana make great money at SMW but the risk is very high cuz that divison is filled talent and its a big step for Sergio to take but no guts no glory.. decision is yours team Martinez to step up to the plate

[hugh grant]

Floyd beat Shane Mosley (Who was considered #1 at the time) at the full WW limit, who KO'd Margarito, who TKO'd a prime UNDEFEATED Miguel Cotto at the full WW limit. Manny has yet to beat the #1 WW in the division he has fought more in then Floyd.

SSM ko'ed Margarito, not Floyd, so why mention it as if Floyd ko'ed SSMs opponent.

Floyd beat SSM and SSM only. Cotto could so easily be considered the no1 WW as well, as he did beat SSM as well. So what if Cotto lost one fight to Margarito are you going to hold that against Cotto forever?
Cotto lost to Margarito but that dont make him not the no1 WW. COtto became no1 WW when he beat SSM.

Pacs done more at WW and the only thing floyd has is a 154 win over DLH. Floyd cant live off of one fight at 154. He needs to campaign there

[WESS]

SSM ko'ed Margarito, not Floyd, so why mention it as if Floyd ko'ed SSMs opponent.

Floyd beat SSM and SSM only. Cotto could so easily be considered the no1 WW as well, as he did beat SSM as well. So what if Cotto lost one fight to Margarito are you going to hold that against Cotto forever?
Cotto lost to Margarito but that dont make him not the no1 WW. COtto became no1 WW when he beat SSM.

Pacs done more at WW and the only thing floyd has is a 154 win over DLH. Floyd cant live off of one fight at 154. He needs to campaign there

How many lineal Champions has Pac fought at WW?

Ok ok ok, I'll make it easy. How many Champions has Pac fought at WW without a CW?

Ok ok sorry, I will make it even easier. How many Champions as Pac fought at WW?

JMW?

btw,
Floyd has fought and beat more lineal and current champions than Pac, his reign of supremacy is twice as long as Pac's, and he's never lost. Floyd also dismantled and shut down the last known fighter (JMM) to give Pacquiao a lot problems (at WW) to say the least.

Pac can't live off one CW fight vs Cotto back in 2009. lol

[Check_hooks]

[switchsouthpaw]

Mayweather is by far and away the best fighter on the planet. Pac and Sergio is a toss up. Pac in my opinion has more accomplishments against future HOF's and Sergio is a beast, but is getting older. Either way Mayweather has really only two options, fight Pac and solidify that number one spot, or fight Martinez and further solidify all time greatness. I think he beats them both.

[GRUSTLER]

SSM ko'ed Margarito, not Floyd, so why mention it as if Floyd ko'ed SSMs opponent.

Floyd beat SSM and SSM only. Cotto could so easily be considered the no1 WW as well, as he did beat SSM as well. So what if Cotto lost one fight to Margarito are you going to hold that against Cotto forever?
Cotto lost to Margarito but that dont make him not the no1 WW. COtto became no1 WW when he beat SSM.

Pacs done more at WW and the only thing floyd has is a 154 win over DLH. Floyd cant live off of one fight at 154. He needs to campaign there

Because Floyd beat Shane who was the #1 WW. Roach and Pac didn't want any parts of Shane after he KO'd Margarito. Even demanded a catch weight Shane couldn't even make.

Cotto could have been considered whoever he wanted to be at the time but he wasn't the #1 WW by beating Shane (Who he narrowly beat at the time). Also, Cotto won his WBO title vacantly because Paul Williams could not secure a fight at WW. Pac's fought more at WW as of recent but he hasn't done more because he still hasn't beat the #1 WW or become the lineal champion of the division but Floyd has by beating Baldomir and technically against Shane.

You are saying that Floyd can't live off of one win at 154? What about Pac? Floyd beat Oscar at the full limit of 154 for Oscar's WBC title. Pac fought for his 8th title that was stripped from Martinez at 154 at a 150 catch weight against a fighter not ranked, coming off of a 1 year suspension followed by a lackluster fight prior to facing Pac.

[Point Maid]

beats manny easy but wouldn't touch money may..but pac is scared to fight anyone legit anyway..the catch weight fraud will keep ducking proper fighters...pac is in the jungle of the filipines hiding so I guess martinez vs mayweather will be on...

then duckqiao will come out and say...emmmm me back in Amerrrica aammm me don't know why mayweather no want fight eemmm but arum make good fight for me ammm me go sing song

if your racist ass can spell I would have even dignified your post by not adding the :****you:

[switchsouthpaw]

Because Floyd beat Shane who was the #1 WW. Roach and Pac didn't want any parts of Shane after he KO'd Margarito. Even demanded a catch weight Shane couldn't even make.

Cotto could have been considered whoever he wanted to be at the time but he wasn't the #1 WW by beating Shane (Who he narrowly beat at the time). Also, Cotto won his WBO title vacantly because Paul Williams could not secure a fight at WW. Pac's fought more at WW but he hasn't done more because he still hasn't beat the #1 WW or become the lineal champion of the division but Floyd has by beating Baldomir and technically against Shane.

You are saying that Floyd can't live off of one win at 154? What about Pac? Floyd beat Oscar at the full limit of 154 for Oscar's WBC title. Pac fought for his 8th title that was stripped from Martinez at 154 at a 150 catch weight against a fighter not ranked, coming off of a 1 year suspension followed by a lackluster fight prior to facing Pac.

Floyd, also conquered a mountain, that had been conquered a few times before...just saying. Pac, had Mosley in serious trouble and running for dear life all night (please don't make excuses, Mosley had on his track shoes after the knockdown). Floyd, is the best fighter on the planet bar none, but he's also been the best manager since he's become a welter, picking and choose, or vacationing when it suited him and that coveted "0" status.

[Point Maid]

Why is team martinez trying to sell their name by always mentioning these two guys?? cuz they know dam well they aint getting a fight with them so why keep mentioning them?? Sergio is the MW champ and if he cant get good pay days anymore at MW then they know damn well what to do. yes u guessed it right...MOVE THE F*** UP!!! SMW has alot of Big names and talents if he wants he can go challenge these guys but why wont he do this?? well if he aint gona fight Pirog there's no way in hell he fighting anyone at SMW.. idk team Martinez needs to make up their mind u want to make good money fighting at MW or u wana make great money at SMW but the risk is very high cuz that divison is filled talent and its a big step for Sergio to take but no guts no glory.. decision is yours team Martinez to step up to the plate

He should take from the pacquiao book going up in weight chasing those with bigger pockets. Sergio looks looks like a sissy stating going up puts him at a disadvantage and at the same time calling out welterweights.

[GRUSTLER]

Floyd, also conquered a mountain, that had been conquered a few times before...just saying. Pac, had Mosley in serious trouble and running for dear life all night (please don't make excuses, Mosley had on his track shoes after the knockdown). Floyd, is the best fighter on the planet bar none, but he's also been the best manager since he's become a welter, picking and choose, or vacationing when it suited him and that coveted "0" status.

So Floyd picked and choose and made himself become the Lineal Champion of the WW division? Mosley was on his way out before Floyd but Margarito put him back in the loop and was actually viewed as a threat to Floyd at the time. Pac didn't get that same outlook when he fought Mosley.

Mayweather, however, has a chance to at least shush the critics now that he is finally going to face an elite welterweight in champion Shane Mosley

http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/box...dan&id=5146915

Arum doesn't care. He only wants to do what is best for himself, certainly not for boxing. He is going to put Mosley in the ring with Pacquiao soley because of name. It's a move that will squeeze out the last gasps of Mosley's once-outstanding career so Arum can generate another big payday while doing a disservice to real boxing fans who actually care about the matchups and not just a famous but faded name.

http://espn.go.com/sports/boxing/blo...d-fight-boxing

That Mosley fight with Pac was B.S. I'm still feeling like it was crazy suspect how Mosley never even tried to fight back and at times had Pac wide open and held back his punches. So if Floyd is picking and chosen what has Pac been doing all of this time? You guys swear up and down that I'm defending Floyd and a ***** but I'm just the kind of guy who can't and don't cosign anything that ain't facts or common sense. Floyd went on vacation 2 times and he still was/is ranked higher than Manny Pacquiao AND fought the more regarded fighters.

Floyd could fight anyone and people would make some kind of excuse on why he is fighting them and why he won. Shane jumped in the ring after Marquez and called Floyd out and people said Floyd was scared to death to fight Shane and the minute he served Shane up, then Shane was gassed out and old. Pac gets him 2 fights later and all of a sudden Mosley was scared of Pac? Mosley wasn't running for dear life. It was Roach and Pac back in 09 after Shane KO'd Margarito, went to the Wild Card Gym and was begging Roach to fight Manny. Get out of here with the non sense homie. Pac has had the most protection in the whole sport of boxing.

"Shane called me earlier [Monday] and said that's it, he's had it," Shaefer said. "He's not waiting around anymore. He said, 'This guy [Pacquiao] is obviously scared of me. So let's move on.' Sugar Shane Mosley's career has not been built around Pacquiao. He already has a legacy of greatness. But eventually a Mayweather or Cotto or Pacquiao will need him. That day will come."

http://espn.go.com/sports/boxing/blo...pacquiao-dream