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If Floyd and Manny fight May 5th and Floyd dominates he is top 15 atg

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  • #41
    Originally posted by puga View Post
    .yeah google..greatest fighter alive?...ali , srl, duran , sweetpea, etc are all still alive, is floyd greater than any of them?...
    No time to get into an irrelevant argument about a signature I made. Also, I'm pretty sure it doesn't say "greatest of all time." It's very amusing looking at people like you who have pure hatred in their heart for another man and will take time out of everyday of your life to make it a goal to call him a coward as much as possible. People like you aren't fans of the sport, you are the scum of boxing conversations, you bring nothing but a biased opinion and hating obsession of another being to the table, that's all.

    You aren't winning anyone over, or convincing people with your left field hatred comments, your only embarrassing yourself and wasting your time. What's the point in you **** riding someone who you think is a coward. 8,000+ post in a year, bet half of them is "hate" posts. Go outside, get some puss dork.

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    • #42
      Originally posted by [SyrianUser] View Post
      Lol Pacquiao wasnt even in their top 50
      here's the keeper of the atg list....6 fights ago..

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      • #43
        Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
        http://boxing.about.com/od/history/a/50_greatest.htm

        1. Sugar Ray Robinson
        2. Muhammad Ali
        3. Henry Armstrong
        4. Joe Louis
        5. Willie Pep
        6. Roberto Duran
        7. Benny Leonard
        8. Jack Johnson
        9. Jack Dempsey
        10. Sam Langford
        11. Joe Gans
        12. Sugar Ray Leonard
        13. Harry Greb
        14. Rocky Marciano
        15. Jimmy Wilde
        16. Gene Tunney
        17. Mickey Walker
        19. Stanley Ketchel
        20. George Foreman
        21. Tony Canzoneri
        22. Barney Ross
        23. Jimmy McLarnin
        24. Julio Cesar Chavez
        25. Marcel Cerdan
        26. Joe Frazier
        27. Ezzard Charles
        18. Archie Moore
        28. Jake LaMotta
        29. Sandy Saddler
        30. Terry McGovern
        31. Billy Conn
        32. Jose Napoles
        33. Ruben Olivares
        34. Emile Griffith
        35. Marvin Hagler
        36. Eder Jofre
        37. Thomas Hearns
        38. Larry Holmes
        39. Oscar De La Hoya
        40. Evander Holyfield
        41. Ted "Kid" Lewis
        42. Alexis Arguello
        43. Marco Antonio Barrera
        44. Pernell Whitaker
        45. Carlos Monzon
        46. Roy Jones Jr.
        47. Bernard Hopkins
        48. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
        49. Erik Morales
        50. Mike Tyson

        I was wrong. They had him at #48, not #49.
        Sure this list was written by a Pacquiao hater. You can't put Floyd without putting Pacquiao first let alone Barrera and Morales who got destroyed by Pacquiao.

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        • #44
          Originally posted by straightleft View Post
          Sure this list was written by a Pacquiao hater. You can't put Floyd without putting Pacquiao first let alone Barrera and Morales who got destroyed by Pacquiao.
          This list was written by ESPN.

          It was merely a response to a post about ESPN not considering Mayweather to be an ATG.

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          • #45
            Originally posted by straightleft View Post
            Sure this list was written by a Pacquiao hater. You can't put Floyd without putting Pacquiao first let alone Barrera and Morales who got destroyed by Pacquiao.
            I'm pretty sure that ESPN list is pretty outdated. Regardless, if Floyd beats Pacquiao and then Martinez he may crack top 15, maybe even top 10 actually. Personally, Paquiao would top 15 on my list if he were to snag Mayweather's 0.

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            • #46
              Originally posted by Larryx2011 View Post
              in what division??out of the 5 he fought in he was linear in 3(130,135,147)

              at 147 he has beat

              Judah-top 5 ww-ibf champ-former linear champ
              mosley-linear champ wba champ
              baldo-linear champ-wbc champ
              ortiz-wbc champ-top 3 ww
              hatton-former -wba champ-top 5 ww

              so what are you talking about?
              Hatton wasnt a top 5 ww.

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              • #47
                Originally posted by Larryx2011 View Post
                in what division??out of the 5 he fought in he was linear in 3(130,135,147)

                at 147 he has beat

                Judah-top 5 ww-ibf champ-former linear champ
                mosley-linear champ wba champ
                baldo-linear champ-wbc champ
                ortiz-wbc champ-top 3 ww
                hatton-former -wba champ-top 5 ww

                so what are you talking about?
                Judah-top 5 ww-ibf champ-former linear champ(weak coming off a loss and kostyas customer)
                mosley-linear champ wba champ(good win but too late for a fight)
                baldo-linear champ-wbc champ(weak champion in a very weak weight division that time but he takes that belt and recognition even though it is a boring fight)
                ortiz-wbc champ-top 3 ww(man dont rate this guy coz he beat berto maidanas waste)
                hatton-former -wba champ-top 5 ww(he is JWW not a welter weight)


                anyway those are wins to compile for floyd.

                if he chooses cotto/margarito/clottey or something that make him challenge himself it is better for his legacy. legacy?? he thinks about money first. lol

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
                  http://boxing.about.com/od/history/a/50_greatest.htm

                  1. Sugar Ray Robinson
                  2. Muhammad Ali
                  3. Henry Armstrong
                  4. Joe Louis
                  5. Willie Pep
                  6. Roberto Duran
                  7. Benny Leonard
                  8. Jack Johnson
                  9. Jack Dempsey
                  10. Sam Langford
                  11. Joe Gans
                  12. Sugar Ray Leonard
                  13. Harry Greb
                  14. Rocky Marciano
                  15. Jimmy Wilde
                  16. Gene Tunney
                  17. Mickey Walker
                  19. Stanley Ketchel
                  20. George Foreman
                  21. Tony Canzoneri
                  22. Barney Ross
                  23. Jimmy McLarnin
                  24. Julio Cesar Chavez
                  25. Marcel Cerdan
                  26. Joe Frazier
                  27. Ezzard Charles
                  18. Archie Moore
                  28. Jake LaMotta
                  29. Sandy Saddler
                  30. Terry McGovern
                  31. Billy Conn
                  32. Jose Napoles
                  33. Ruben Olivares
                  34. Emile Griffith
                  35. Marvin Hagler
                  36. Eder Jofre
                  37. Thomas Hearns
                  38. Larry Holmes
                  39. Oscar De La Hoya
                  40. Evander Holyfield
                  41. Ted "Kid" Lewis
                  42. Alexis Arguello
                  43. Marco Antonio Barrera
                  44. Pernell Whitaker
                  45. Carlos Monzon
                  46. Roy Jones Jr.
                  47. Bernard Hopkins
                  48. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
                  49. Erik Morales
                  50. Mike Tyson

                  I was wrong. They had him at #48, not #49.
                  That list is awful. Sugar Ray Leonard is nowhere near #12 and I don't think Oscar should be in the top 50. Pacquiao deserves to be there before he does.

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                  • #49
                    Floyd is much bigger than Pac and Marquez

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by -Kev- View Post
                      I disagree because I don't think that highly of Pacquiao. But the people that do think highly of Pacquiao and call him a top 25 ATG and hype up his 8 divisional champion crap, they should put Floyd high up on their imaginary ATG list.


                      To me, Floyd is already one of the best fighters I have ever seen regardless of where any one wants to put him. He doesn't have to beat any special media created hypejob fighter for me to be convinced about anything. The haters that hate him now for whatever reason, will still hate him after he beats Pacquiao and will never rate him highly.
                      exactly pacquiao isn't good enough where beating him bumps Floyd all the way to #15 on the ATG list

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