Andre Ward or Prime Bernard Hopkins?

[sunny31]

The guy is a Ring and Unified champion and just won a big tournament slightly north of Hopkins' prime weight, I think the comparisons are justified. He's hardly a prospect

I disagree, it's all hypothetical of course, but a prime Hopkins would have destroyed Froch, tbh I wouldnt be surprised if he beat him more convincingly now, Froch would not lat a glove on Hop, Ward was touched clean in pretty much every round. Most of the rounds were pretty competitive, even if Ward was winning them.

Hopkins fought and beat (some) p4p fighters, and even the ones he lost were fights that could have gone either way. Ward has yet to even fight one. It's premature. Let's see Ward in with Direll and Bute.

[djtmal]

prime bernard would do ward in....painful as that was to say....

[Dedication]

what would you consider to be prime hopkins? to be honest, i've never seen anything before the trinidad fight...except for some highlights of the roy jones fight.

any fights you recommend?

Hopkins versus Wendall Hall is also another good one.



Also check out Echols 2 (great finish), Lipsey (great finish), Mercundo (1 and 2), Robert Allen, Keith Holmes - all good fights.

The Lipsey KO is one of my faves:

[sunny31]

To the poster above. Hopkins versus Glen Johnson = masterful performance

The dude was such a beast, the comparison at this stage is actually a little bit insulting

[Dedication]

The dude was such a beast, the comparison at this stage is actually a little bit insulting

To be fair to Ward, he's just etching into his prime, and is still improving.

[Dedication]

I think if you were to judge them appropriately then take Hopkins and Ward after 25 fights a piece.

[snoopymiller]

That isn't boxing what Ward does in there. It's a boxing/wrestling hybrid.

Prime Hopkins would brutalize guys by boxing and punching.

Prime Ward brutalizes fans with his display of who knows what.

[-EX-]

Ward fights more like Bernard post-160 to me...and prime for prime they're built differently...

Bernard was more aggresive and loose when he was younger...prime Bernard might have stopped Froch or came pretty close...

[-DSG-]

wards fighting better competition at this stage than was b-hop

[Rhyme 4 Rhyme]

Prime Hopkins beats Ward in every aspect of the fight and makes him quit in the late rounds...