WITH ALL DUE RESPECT...Is Freddie Roach Slipping?

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  • Ko King 212
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    #21
    It's a case of the opp. That they recently been picking don't lay down for anybody.

    Also Freddy doesn't have a plan c or b for that matter. All he teaches is flurries and get out.

    I mean all his fighters get hit with the same dam punch.

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    • El_Forklift
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      #22
      Hate to say it, but I think so

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      • Jedi Vader
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        #23
        Illness aside, his 2 star pupils have exposed him badly by not having a Plan B, C or D when the chips are down. It's up to Freddie to supply them with one in their hour of need. He failed them.

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        • V.WEBB
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          #24
          Originally posted by -D33Pwaters-
          It's because they fight in the same basic style blueprint since Roach got hold of them. Add Jorge lianres to that list. From my obserations, Roach has recycled styles in the Wild Card.

          Freddie Roach just seems to be an offensive minded trainer who clearly hasn't taught Khan how to fight on the inside. Is it becuase he can't or won't? i don't know.

          Even the primary reason for Khan hiring roach, which was to improve his defence, has not been properly dealt with.
          Yea..you can say that agin.

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          • Double
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            #25
            No disrespect to Freddie, I went to the fight with my girlfriend and the next day we watched the replay and she was like "how in the heck does Khan know what Freddie is saying?" I'm used to Freddies speach but with everything he has going on and the stress of being in a big fight when you're fighter's in a war, does he still have the physical tools to be effective?

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              #26
              Originally posted by CONQUERING
              Yea..you can say that agin.
              Freddie has parkinsons,a gym to run, Manny and JCC jr. to train and a TV show. He has too much going on for someone with his health issues.

              Think of the fighter freddie was. His defense was basically his toughness, it surely wasn't parrying, blocking or head movement.

              I think its time he does what Steward does and come in to put in a gameplan but let subordinates and assistants handle the daily stuff.

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                #27
                Originally posted by Double
                No disrespect to Freddie, I went to the fight with my girlfriend and the next day we watched the replay and she was like "how in the heck does Khan know what Freddie is saying?" I'm used to Freddies speach but with everything he has going on and the stress of being in a big fight when you're fighter's in a war, does he still have the physical tools to be effective?
                My boy said the same thing about freddie's speech while watching the fight.

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                • roademier
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                  #28
                  yeah
                  Freddie didn't seem that great in the corner on Saturday

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                  • Pin Galarga
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                    #29
                    Roach still knows boxing, but his ilness is taking over. He didn't do good against Peterson and also have seen him slip on Okoye's corner.

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                    • Eaner0919
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Gino Ros
                      But if he is still sharp in the gym, are we seeing development/improvement in his top two guys?

                      I thought that his advice to "shoot something up the middle" was good. Khan came out in the next round and landed two hard uppercuts up the middle.

                      But overall, Khan and Pac seem unimproved to me.
                      when I say sharp I meant physically.

                      to be honest I am just not sure about his fight day tactics anymore. He had poor plans with Linares and Pacquiao and was seemingly general in his instructions to Khan short of the going down the middle.

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