WITH ALL DUE RESPECT...Is Freddie Roach Slipping?

[Eaner0919]

in the gym he is still sharp although the day to day operations of WC have to be taking it's toll on him

in the corner his advice has indeed become very questionable

[Pretty Boy32]

Freddie was always overrated as a trainer, the key to the success in his fighters is Alex Ariza.

[Gino Ros]

in the gym he is still sharp although the day to day operations of WC have to be taking it's toll on him

in the corner his advice has indeed become very questionable

But if he is still sharp in the gym, are we seeing development/improvement in his top two guys?

I thought that his advice to "shoot something up the middle" was good. Khan came out in the next round and landed two hard uppercuts up the middle.

But overall, Khan and Pac seem unimproved to me.

[Dedication]

No, Roach is just running out of opponents he could deem to the public as credible. Peterson > Judah, McCloskey, Maidana, Kotelnik. Peterson was the 1st tough challenge Khan had in ages.

Same goes for Pacquaio

[Dedication]

Freddie was always overrated as a trainer, the key to the success in his fighters is Alex Ariza.

Spot on, my dude!

[Forza]

He needs to slow down and focus on 1 fighter.

[Vadrigar.]

But if he is still sharp in the gym, are we seeing development/improvement in his top two guys?

I thought that his advice to "shoot something up the middle" was good. Khan came out in the next round and landed two hard uppercuts up the middle.

But overall, Khan and Pac seem unimproved to me.

It's because they fight in the same basic style blueprint since Roach got hold of them. Add Jorge lianres to that list. From my obserations, Roach has recycled styles in the Wild Card.

Freddie Roach just seems to be an offensive minded trainer who clearly hasn't taught Khan how to fight on the inside. Is it becuase he can't or won't? i don't know.

Even the primary reason for Khan hiring roach, which was to improve his defence, has not been properly dealt with.

[The Gambler1981]

I have never got why Freddie roach trained so many guys, I get that he was in favor and he had to strike while the iron was hot and he could still do it but damn for a while it seemed like he was trying to train half the boxing world.

It just seemed like a bad idea, someone that ill should not be working that hard there is no way that is good for him.

Freddie is like any other trainer it depends on the guy he is training but really he hasn't been choosey with guys and that has lead guys to him that he really can not maximize. I think Freddie has an alright approach although it is really simplistic but in a fight keeping it simple is often very wise advice, it becomes an issue if the simple stuff is not up to the task or the other guy is focused (and or capable of) taking away plan A. Still I don't find that a huge flaw because most fighters are not adept tacticians and any guy who can take away their strength is always going to be an issue and when you look at who he was as a fighter tough to expect him to solve complex in ring issues that are really very tough problems to overcome.

[Dedication]

Would Roach be as successful a trainer if he didn't have any tapes of his fighter's opponents?

[Vadrigar.]

Would Roach be as successful a trainer if he didn't have any tapes on his fighter's opponents?

Most trainers have this available. I've watched Nazeem Richardson, Jack Mosley viewing tapes wth their fighters.

So it's not something exclusive to Roach.