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  • JBell11
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    #21
    But he's Roach! The BEst of the best of the best of the best of the best!

    ROach = iphone

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    • jkaisen41
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      #22
      Originally posted by Larryx2011
      Lineras,then manny,now khan...this guy hasnt been giving good corner information this year
      A trainer is only as good as the fighter he trains - the matchmaking of the promoter can also help

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      • Larry the boss
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        #23
        Originally posted by jkaisen41
        A trainer is only as good as the fighter he trains - the matchmaking of the promoter can also help
        he offers 0 advice in the ring lately tho

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        • welcometosaigon
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          #24
          I think Brother ****m and Robert Garcia give some of the best advice in the ring. Roach isn't even close to being on their level.

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          • BOLLOCKS
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            #25
            He's a good trainer, but he's very overrated because of Pac's success, and his match making makes him out to look better than he really is.

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            • RajahBell
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              #26
              Originally posted by Larryx2011
              he offers 0 advice in the ring lately tho
              I thought he kept telling Khan to throw down the middle, and to throw uppercuts which he did with some success.

              But, I agree that Roach isn't looking good this year. I'm beginning to wonder if the Parkinson's is really affecting him now. There seems to be no plan B and no adjustment during the fight with his gameplans.

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              • -Kev-
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                #27
                Originally posted by welcometosaigon
                I think Brother ****m and Robert Garcia give some of the best advice in the ring. Roach isn't even close to being on their level.
                Garcia is actually one of the most overrated trainers in the last 10 years. Roach is better than him. And Nazeem has those three big wins to fall back on with Hopkins-Pavlik/Pascal and Mosley vs Margarito. Mosley vs Mayweather/Pacquiao, was more of Mosley being too old and fighting the younger better fighters. Hopkins vs Dawson was not Richardson's fault that Hopkins overreacted to a minor injury[minor according to B-Hop fans since Hopkins will be sparring in January]. But at the end of the day is all about the fighters. You can give a journeyman a great trainer, he's not gonna become a worldbeater all of a sudden. That's why I say trainers get too much credit.

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                • -Kev-
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by RajahBell
                  I thought he kept telling Khan to throw down the middle, and to throw uppercuts which he did with some success.

                  But, I agree that Roach isn't looking good this year. I'm beginning to wonder if the Parkinson's is really affecting him now. There seems to be no plan B and no adjustment during the fight with his gameplans.
                  And that was actually great advice, but it's not Roach's fault that Khan instead chose to runaway and shake his head in the inside, Roach's advice was not "Shake your head when ever he catches you clean, judges love that" or "Shove or push him really hard if he gets too close". When I heard Roach give him that advice to throw down the middle and throw uppercuts, I thought to myself "Damn, that is some pretty good advice, and makes sense since Peterson is throwing wide shots to the body". Did Khan execute this advice? No he didn't, so it's not Roach's fault. He gave the correct advice, Khan didn't follow through with it.

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                  • Jedi Vader
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by -Kev-
                    And that was actually great advice, but it's not Roach's fault that Khan instead chose to runaway and shake his head in the inside, Roach's advice was not "Shake your head when ever he catches you clean, judges love that" or "Shove or push him really hard if he gets too close". When I heard Roach give him that advice to throw down the middle and throw uppercuts, I thought to myself "Damn, that is some pretty good advice, and makes sense since Peterson is throwing wide shots to the body". Did Khan execute this advice? No he didn't, so it's not Roach's fault. He gave the correct advice, Khan didn't follow through with it.
                    Or maybe Khan didn't feel confident of carrying out that advice.

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                    • BattleAxePurist
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Larryx2011
                      he offers 0 advice in the ring lately tho
                      You should listen in between rounds during the Khan fight he gave very specific instructions Khan just didn't execute them in a effecient manner.

                      As for Linares he had won every round but 1 and just got caught and couldn't recover so......

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