Lacy-Calzaghe (WARNING: SERIOUS DISCUSSION ONLY)

[Dirt E Gomez]

Calzaghe is simply not the fighter he used to be. A prime Calzaghe would make a good fight of this, not in his current shape.

His mediocre opponents and lack of fights in general are going to get him in trouble against the up and comer. While Lacy isn't the most powerful 1 punch KO artist in the league (which is easily illustrated in the Reid fight) he can throw decent combinations which are very forceful. He puts a lot of punch through his opponents which often drive them to the mat. Whether they get up or not is usually up to them.

I think Calzaghe will tire in the later rounds from Lacy's pressing action and end up losing via a T/KO in round 9 or so. Calzaghe will most likely win rounds 2-6 or so with moderate ease.

[Knicksman20]

I've seen both of them fight numerous times & Calzaghe has never been a really good fighter but he's ok. He has ok speed & decent power but has never been in the ring with a true puncher. He's always gotten by on his natural talent but he's never had a really challenging opponent that had a good chance of beating him. Lacy is a good champion that has flaws but is tough,covers up some of his flaws by having a strong will, solid punching power, & great stamina. Anyone who decides to trade bombs with Lacy will get KO'ed whether early or late and to me JC doesn't have the boxing skill or stamina to keep Lacy off him for 12 rounds. Lacy has power in both hands unlike JC who's money punch is the left.

[RAESAAD]

I honestly have to say given what I have seen Calzaghe may have given Lacy a nightmare years ago although I have faith that Lacy is going to prove to be a very durable and sturdy fighter over time and still would eeeek out a victory but now I really think Lacy shocks the world and KOs Joe and in exciting fashion.

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I've seen both of them fight numerous times & Calzaghe has never been a really good fighter but he's ok. He has ok speed & decent power but has never been in the ring with a true puncher. He's always gotten by on his natural talent but he's never had a really challenging opponent that had a good chance of beating him. Lacy is a good champion that has flaws but is tough,covers up some of his flaws by having a strong will, solid punching power, & great stamina. Anyone who decides to trade bombs with Lacy will get KO'ed whether early or late and to me JC doesn't have the boxing skill or stamina to keep Lacy off him for 12 rounds. Lacy has power in both hands unlike JC who's money punch is the left.

Never been in the ring with a true puncher?

Charles Brewer is a puncher, there is no debating this.

If you have not seen this fight it is one of the more less talked about breathtaking brawls of the last 5 years...trust me Chrales Brewer is a puncher!

[Knicksman20]

Never been in the ring with a true puncher?

Charles Brewer is a puncher, there is no debating this.

If you have not seen this fight it is one of the more less talked about breathtaking brawls of the last 5 years...trust me Chrales Brewer is a puncher!

Yeah I saw the fight. Brewer was past his prime & was completely overmatched by the younger/stronger JC. Brewer never has been a great puncher but he's a little above average. He's was no Antwun Echols but still a good puncher.

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Yeah I saw the fight. Brewer was past his prime & was completely overmatched by the younger/stronger JC. Brewer never has been a great puncher but he's a little above average. He's was no Antwun Echols but still a good puncher.

Byron Mitchel was considered a big puncher too.

[Bozo_no no]

Byron Mitchel was considered a big puncher too.

Indeed he was, and he dropped Calzaghe hard and then was the victem of a very weak stoppage.

JuyJuy mentioned a younger Calzaghe would blow Lacy away.

I find that to be utter non sense.

I find the talk about Calzaghe being a shadow of his former self at 32 to be as ridiculous as the kids Anorak talked about that only say 'pwned'.

If Calzaghe is washed up at 32, it's because he wasted the last five years not challenging him self, not growing as a fighter, and void of accomplishment.

Also, the talk about how Reid faired in Florida is very rich when you consider how many times fighters have been ripped off in Whales. Omar Sheika was the victem of a very soft home stoppage, and Mitchell, as mentioned, was stopped on a KD that was nowhere near as bad as the one he'd dropped Joe with earlier in that same round.

This fight really should be in a neutral location if anything.

And if it comes off, which seemed to be the question asked, I think Calzaghe is too rusty because of the lack of quality opposition to go in and take Lacy apart.

Barring Lacy being exposed for having a poor chin, his work rate and strength will be too much, and he'll out work and stop Calzaghe mid fight.

But to be completly honest, I don't believe Calzaghe truely is interested in this fight. I say it doesn't happen.

[SuckaPunch]

What I’m actually looking for in this thread is the opinions of people who have actually SEEN both fighters, not kids from Junior High who only know Calzaghe from BoxRec and want to talk smack about him “not coming to America to prove himself” or “Lacy will pwn him”.

I think you should've labelled this thread, for Brit fans only.

You have to understand, most Americans fight fans have not seen a Joe Calzaghe fight before. You can't blame them for not believing that Lacy will murder Calzaghe. That's one big advantage that you Brits hold over American fans, knowledge. You get to see the best of both worlds while we only see one.

By the way, I've downloaded and seen about a handful of Calzaghe fights and I think in his prime, he has a really good chance of outboxing Lacy to get a comfortable decision. But right now, he may still be able to outbox Lacy but I believe there's no way within a span of 12 rounds that Lacy will not land his bomb.

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Indeed he was, and he dropped Calzaghe hard and then was the victem of a very weak stoppage.

JuyJuy mentioned a younger Calzaghe would blow Lacy away.

I find that to be utter non sense.

I find the talk about Calzaghe being a shadow of his former self at 32 to be as ridiculous as the kids Anorak talked about that only say 'pwned'.

If Calzaghe is washed up at 32, it's because he wasted the last five years not challenging him self, not growing as a fighter, and void of accomplishment.

Also, the talk about how Reid faired in Florida is very rich when you consider how many times fighters have been ripped off in Whales. Omar Sheika was the victem of a very soft home stoppage, and Mitchell, as mentioned, was stopped on a KD that was nowhere near as bad as the one he'd dropped Joe with earlier in that same round.

This fight really should be in a neutral location if anything.

And if it comes off, which seemed to be the question asked, I think Calzaghe is too rusty because of the lack of quality opposition to go in and take Lacy apart.

Barring Lacy being exposed for having a poor chin, his work rate and strength will be too much, and he'll out work and stop Calzaghe mid fight.

But to be completly honest, I don't believe Calzaghe truely is interested in this fight. I say it doesn't happen.

1) I dont think LAcy would be blown away by anyone in recent memory I dont care how in or out of their prime they may be.

2) Yes the Mitchel fight was a bull**** stoppage...too bad too because that was a pretty fast paced two rounds of action.

3) At 32 if Joe is spent it is his fault...he has no one to blame but himself.

4) Sure a neutral site would be ideal but we both know that is not going to happen...I do have to admit that when really big fight take place over seas the atmosphere just seems surreal...I really enjoy it but with that said I do fear a referee jumping in and doing somehting ******...

Lean toward Lacy recently but let me state that it is a slight lean...if the fight goes off overseas I think it is probably a u pickem again.

[Guest]

I think you should've labelled this thread, for Brit fans only.

You have to understand, most Americans fight fans have not seen a Joe Calzaghe fight before. You can't blame them for not believing that Lacy will murder Calzaghe. That's one big advantage that you Brits hold over American fans, knowledge. You get to see the best of both worlds while we only see one.

By the way, I've downloaded and seen about a handful of Calzaghe fights and I think in his prime, he has a really good chance of outboxing Lacy to get a comfortable decision. But right now, he may still be able to outbox Lacy but I believe there's no way within a span of 12 rounds that Lacy will not land his bomb.

You see, the first two paragraphs you say that non-Brits haven't got to see Calzaghe... then you end by saying that you've seen a handful (probably about the same as me then) by download.

They are out there... there are even lounges on this site for that express purpose. It's just that people are too lazy to look. If I wanted to see Lacy I'd ask for the download and watch him (if he wasn't on TV anyway, you see what I mean?)

It's to your credit you've taken the time to find out... and to others' detriment that they deride a fighter they haven't made an effort to see.