[Video] Measuring Manny 2012 | Pacquiao Improved Or Overhyped?

[COACH WEBB]

If I were a ***** I'd never show up in these forums. Let me remind you fantasy kids that it was Marquez who rose to the occasion, not your idol Mayweather. Mayweather acted like a pu55y for three long years avoiding an amateurish, overrated boxer from Asia.

You kids should at least start trying to be consistent. *****s have been saying Pac is just an overrated boxer. Yet you want the most stringent test ever demanded in the history of the sport. Wtf is that? That's ******. It just means you don't really mean what you kids are saying.

Think, kids, think before embarrassing yourselves.

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[GrandpaBernard]

I think most will disregard this video because it's the same story made by the same biased fools on the internet.

I could easily put together a video, with a fighters flaws, to prove that fighter is overrated......but bull**** videos like this exist because there is an audience for it.

That's not the point.

The point is if you came in with improvements you should have been more dominant in a rematch, especially when the weight and ages favored you.

What happened in the third fight? It turns out to be Marquez most convincing victory.

He actually ended up losing harder in a rematch against a fighter on the decline.

[COACH WEBB]

That's not the point.

The point is if you came in with improvements you should have been more dominant in a rematch, especially when the weight and ages favored you.

What happened in the third fight? It turns out to be Marquez most convincing victory.

He actually ended up losing harder in a rematch against a fighter on the decline.

Right. I mean nothing good came out of this third fight. I was convinced that Manny would basically destroy the 38 year old LW that was out of his weight class. I had it as a stoppage in 6 or 8, I believe. Then right after the fight we have Bob Arum talking about a freaking fourth fight? For what?

[tredh]

Manny has improved some physically but he has not improved from a mental aspect in the boxing ring. I feel Marquez made Manny think instead of just reacting and that is not a strong suit for Manny in a boxing ring. Force Manny to think and it slows him down. Manny is a fighter that can follow a game plan if its working but if its not working perfectly he will not be able to figure out adjustments on the fly or take different instructions from Roach that are different than what they worked on the whole training camp.

[jgc2168]

Same old crap as usual from *****s.

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exactly! I expected an actual video analysis and it ended up being a floyd love video! Lol! Why you so butt hurt?

[Chopper417]

IMHO for the people who dont see PAC has improved, its either your blind or just hating...

And Floyd? Corrales?Hatton?

I can name two, I think Manny beat Marquez at least once (sure *****s will give the 3 fights to Marquez as the unbiased fans they are). In my opinion, Manny won clearly the first fight with Marquez, it was a draw according to the judges, but Manny floored Marquez 3 times and won the first two rounds, Marquez had to win 8 of the last 10 rounds in order to win the fight, he didn't.

Floyd's win over Marquez is a joke. It was a size mismatch.

And Barrera like you said, Barrera was 29 years old.
He had been trough many wars yes, just like Pacquiao by the way.

Ok so I'm not necessarily disagreeing with you here, but you have to be more specific. Is it a joke because Floyd didn't come in at the contracted weight? Because as has been mentioned before, if it's simply a size thing then any Mayweather win over Pac would have to be considered a joke too. And Mayweather beats Marquez at any weight at any point so unless you are just saying that they should have never stepped into the ring together at ANY weight then I think you're going a bit over board with the size thing.

[Chopper417]

I think Manny has improved tremendously over his career, but at the end of the day imho, his biggest improvements simply were not between 2008 and 2011.

[Shogunofharlem1]

I think Manny has improved tremendously over his career, but at the end of the day imho, his biggest improvements simply were not between 2008 and 2011.

Agreed. People are confusing roachs stylistic tweaks with full scale style change and thats not the case. Roach took an in and out fighter and gave him some good boxing skills but its not mannys forte. Style wise it makes sense that Marquez beat him. Its reminds me of when arturro gatti started adding outboxing skills into his repetoir and just because it served him well in a few fights he tried to outbox Floyd instead of playing to his own strengths. Lets be real mannys developed some decent counterpunching skills but its **** compared to marquez's counter punching ability.

[hugh grant]

Agreed. People are confusing roachs stylistic tweaks with full scale style change and thats not the case. Roach took an in and out fighter and gave him some good boxing skills but its not mannys forte. Style wise it makes sense that Marquez beat him. Its reminds me of when arturro gatti started adding outboxing skills into his repetoir and just because it served him well in a few fights he tried to outbox Floyd instead of playing to his own strengths. Lets be real mannys developed some decent counterpunching skills but its **** compared to marquez's counter punching ability.

Yes it was sad to see Gatti try and box Floyd.

[P4P_No1]

The best part of the video was the sound effects.

But let's be honest Manny has improved to an extent but his major flaw is that he struggles against "boxers". Guys who come to fight & want to stand in front of him & trade, Manny would 95% of the time whoop them (which he did).

But give him a guy who gives angles, shows movement & displays actual boxing skills; Manny struggles. It's not in his nature to do so. He can't all of a sudden become a "boxer". Manny's a fighter & that's what he'll remain.