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[Video] Measuring Manny 2012 | Pacquiao Improved Or Overhyped?

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  • #31
    aw for ****s sake, lets just take pacquiao out of the top 5 p4p, we can have martinez as the number one p4p

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    • #32
      Originally posted by turbotime View Post
      He has improved no doubt, he just showed Marquez way too much respect and tried outboxing the boxer, failing.
      Wow. Manny came out looking like he was in a sparring match with headgear on and his oponent like some dude out of control with botox in his face.

      Looking good throwing punches at a guy ducking and weaving is nearly impossible..... but again ask yourself who looks the least war torn therafter? You can't hide bruising and swelling.

      Marquez fought great.... time will tell who took the greater lesson from this fight.

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      • #33
        IMHO for the people who dont see PAC has improved, its either your blind or just hating...

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        • #34
          In that video we can all see that:

          Mayweather = Skills

          Pacquiao = Hype


          The difference is shocking , Marquez was able to beat him at 38 years old and moving up in weight because of his skills.
          Last edited by [SyrianUser]; 12-08-2011, 05:25 AM.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by [SyrianUser] View Post
            In that video we can all see that:

            Mayweather = Skills

            Pacquiao = Hype


            The difference is shocking , Marquez was able to beat him at 38 years old and moving up in weight because of his skills.
            Floyd needs to cheat Marquez at weigh-in and sucker punched Ortiz to win.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by straightleft View Post
              Floyd needs to cheat Marquez at weigh-in and sucker punched Ortiz to win.
              At least Floyd has legitimately beaten JMM in one try and didn't need to sucker punch him to do it.


              [IMG]http://i283.***********.com/albums/kk282/amersdlbrd/1therealsuckerpuncher.gif[/IMG]

              Seriously though, I think Pacquiao is improved AND overrated. He has never had one punch KO power in both hands, he also isn't faster than a speeding bullet, or able to leap tall buildings in a single bound. His ahem...more passionate fans, tend to look at him as a super hero moreso than a boxer. Whereas his most vocal detractors want to minimize everything he does. They're both wrong.
              Last edited by DeadLikeMe; 12-08-2011, 05:59 AM.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by thoughtsss View Post
                Manny is where he is today in boxing because of the way he has been handled. They did a very good job with him and his fights. He's beatin some big time names BUT at an advantage over them, wether it be catchweight or a fighter on a decline. When was the last time Manny beat a legit primed fighter at a legit weight? I'd say never. Oh wait maybe when he beat Barrera back in 03 when Barrera had already 61 fights and had been through some wars already.
                And Floyd? Corrales?Hatton?

                I can name two, I think Manny beat Marquez at least once (sure *****s will give the 3 fights to Marquez as the unbiased fans they are). In my opinion, Manny won clearly the first fight with Marquez, it was a draw according to the judges, but Manny floored Marquez 3 times and won the first two rounds, Marquez had to win 8 of the last 10 rounds in order to win the fight, he didn't.

                Floyd's win over Marquez is a joke. It was a size mismatch.

                And Barrera like you said, Barrera was 29 years old.
                He had been trough many wars yes, just like Pacquiao by the way.

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                • #38
                  There is no point in scrtinizing and bullying one boxer so thouroghly. Results is what counts and Pac cant be scrutinized there. It would be easier to scrutinize any other boxer other than Pac, because bottom line Pac has done more than any other boxer.

                  So either way Pac is a winner. If he hasnt improved since first fighting JMM he has still been whooping ass better than anyone so who cares and how can he be critcized? How can he be overhyped by whooping ass better than anyone, and whooping ass he wasnt predicted to whoop?

                  If you want to single out Pac for scrutiny you are bullying, hating and being jealous.
                  Last edited by hugh grant; 12-08-2011, 06:56 AM.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by DeadLikeMe View Post
                    At least Floyd has legitimately beaten JMM in one try and didn't need to sucker punch him to do it.


                    [IMG]http://i283.***********.com/albums/kk282/amersdlbrd/1therealsuckerpuncher.gif[/IMG]

                    Seriously though, I think Pacquiao is improved AND overrated. He has never had one punch KO power in both hands, he also isn't faster than a speeding bullet, or able to leap tall buildings in a single bound. His ahem...more passionate fans, tend to look at him as a super hero moreso than a boxer. Whereas his most vocal detractors want to minimize everything he does. They're both wrong.
                    you actually considered what floyd did against marquez was legit? in spite of having ALL ADVANTAGES in his favor, even fight style-wise, he cheated a much smaller fighter at the AGREED CATCHWEIGHT.

                    never had a one punch KO on both hands? now i KNOW that you've not seen manny fight.

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                    • #40
                      Same old crap as usual from *****s.

                      ;-)

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